Props for Turki for fair judging

People will always moan. Same happened with HBO and SHOWTIME. People moaned and insulted nonstop, now they’re crying for their return.
HBO’s quality was/is unbeatable.

 

I thought the ring looked small too

 

HBO was the best tbh. The best years of boxing on tv for me.

 

Amen.

A lot of people didn’t realise yesterday that they were watching Usyk secure his 3rd win of a trilogy of wins over Fury.

Anyone up for a tetralogy?

We’ve seen bad camp, too clowny, thin Fury lose to Usyk (twice).

Now we’ve just seen a good camp, not clowny, fat, bearded (clam) Fury lose to Usyk.

The next obvious permutation to step up to the plate to have a swing would have to be good camp, not clowny, thin, clean shaven Fury.

No more ifs, buts or maybes peoples.

Fury always fights so much better the 4th time around. He is a fast learner.

The last permutation is all that Fury needs to be to finally solve the Usyk code.

 

Shocking that there's less corrupt judging in Saudi than in the UK. Embarrassing, really.

 

This.

 

It's fair because, unlike old promoters, Turki doesn't need to make money from boxing. He actually is a fan before a promoter.

 

lol, we now legitimately have people in this thread claiming Usyk beat Fury three times, unironically, and another shamelessly standing by the idiotic “corruption” claims that started before the first bell rang last night….

…and if anyone could direct me to the fights where high trunks or a beard heavily influenced the outcome of a fight, please do so….

Y’all are pathetic. Why cant you just celebrate Usyks victory, and enjoy a good scrap?

 

First off, you do understand humour, right?

Secondly, it was clearly outlined as to why some people had pre fight concerns re bias and its possible impact on the complexion/outcome.

What you have just written is “idiotic”.

Btw, are you a Fury fan and do you view both Fury’s and Frank Warren’s post match claims of having won the fight pathetic?

Did they just cop it on the chin and say “good scrap” without suggesting it was an early Xmas “gift” for Usyk?

Warren also implied corruption by stating that “something was up” with the scoring.

Or, reaching further back, was it all good when Fury also implied corruption, blaming the decision in the first fight on the Ukraine war - a claim he has stood by?

Does the passage of time also somehow erase the fact that Fury also had a go at the height of Usyk’s trunks - trunks that sat exactly where they should sit - unlike Fury’s.

You want to talk irony? - there it is.

The sensitivities plied on Fury’s behalf are gob smacking to say the least.

 

People were talking about the judging etc BEFORE the fight as if corruption was a foregone conclusion…. That’s not justified….. I get how “concern” is justified…

Way too much was and is being made about the trunks and beard, and yeah, it’s idiotic.

Fury’s teams reaction to the first fight was shameful, especially the comments about Ukraine, and so was his leaving the ring early last night, and the early X-mas gift thing, etc. No one is saying anything different from what I’ve seen, and of they did, I’d tell them it’s stupid too.

Im a fan of both fighters, moreso Usyk. The things I’m criticizing are what some fans around here are saying, not Usyk.

 

Anyone else think the fury favouritism was maybe a bit of a bluff. The saudi fella made his favouritism clear a bit too much pre fight in hindsight.

Hes got his eye on joshua v fury and he,ll have eddie hearn in his ear i bet.

The fight was so close thats just pure speculation because in a fight like last night 4 points to usyk isnt that bad bearing in mind how close some of they rounds we,re.

Also didnt think fury done himself any favours with his stare down reaction with usyk.

The saudi,s are trying to promote their country.....usyk will be the better guy to back over fury. The saudi fella looked a bit too happy at the end considering he,s meant to be furys biggest fan.

 

The ref was suspect a few times, but the key thing was the judging was fair. Most big fights these days go to the A side.

 

You referenced my post which is fine but I didn’t suggest corruption was a forgone conclusion.

No matter how damning the pre fight evidence might seem to be, no one can predict that for sure - after the fact however, they have a solid view of things.

I said that concerns re same were justified, not “idiotic” - you initially implied that concerns were not at all justified - but I see you have acknowledged that you get that…cheers.

Framed as concerns, they were justified - very fair pre fight commentary.

I also gave background regarding some suspect features of the first fight which could also lend to such concerns.

And I think if one is going to critique such comments it is apt to critique Fury/Warren’s comments in equal measure.

You didn’t say different but then you didn’t comment on Fury’s/Warren’s own comments at all. But you have now and I appreciate that.

And, Fury/Warren made their claims after the fact of the fight - when, fortunately, all appeared to be on the up and up for the most part.

However, I also get that you were critiquing fans comments - as opposed to any comments made by the fighters themselves - I don’t necessarily separate the two - just my opinion.

Why do you think Fury left the beard. Game face? Personally, I don’t believe so.

At the very least, I believe Fury thought it would provide cushion and obscure the crucial facial target areas.

Just isolate the fact that the rules do require such a beard to be trimmed for whatever reasons.

That Fury was permitted to retain the full beard can reasonably called out as a show of bias in and of itself. Turki’s slanted pre fight comments to both Fury and Usyk were off the charts also.

I also believe that Team Fury also tried to forbid Usyk having his crucifix in his corner.

The same crucifix that some mistook to be an inhaler in the first fight. Both sides, clearly on the lookout for anything suspicious.

Clearly, Team Fury were still trying to intimate that something wasn’t or possibly wasn’t kosher about the crucifix as per their request for its removal.

With his ridiculously high trunks and a beard that he could’ve almost tucked into the waistband of those trunks, and his post fight comments - it was only Fury who ultimately appeared “idiotic”.

We can agree to disagree but at least we can agree that it was good scrap. I’m really looking forward to watching it again.

Usyk’s body work was insane and, at least in that dept., Fury’s expansive waist might’ve served him well.

One thing that really surprised me was how Fury didn’t dramatically gas at the heavier weight.

I expected Tyson to notably fold somewhat past say 6 rounds but the big bugger was still there fighting - so def. credit for that.

Funny, just based on appearances, I might’ve guessed him to be actually heavier than his officially announced 281 lbs -

And, he was also fully clothed when stepping onto the scales - so the 281 lbs probably included about 6-7 lbs of clothes weight anyway - placing Fury more realistically in the realm of 274 lbs to 275 lbs. Crazy.

 

It was interesting to see Fury, as Usyk began to take charge, begin to resort to less than legal tactics such as holding and hitting, pushing down on the back of the head, rabbit punching etc…..

…..BUT with Usyk sorting it all himself - not waiting on the ref to do anything about it (ala Mike Tyson who always looked to the ref when he was clinched) -

So, Olek performed a good measure of his own “policing” in that regard, making the ref’s job that much easier -

Olek even gave Fury a few rabbit shots back - well, Fury did label him the rabbit after all. Lol.

And there was also Usyk’s dramatic, almighty shoving of Fury off him….great stuff.

Talk about removing the bullets from your opponent’s gun….disarm and then attack…

 

Yep was good to see I am glad Usyk has never had to fight in Vegas and be subjected to robberies like GGG, Kovalev and Loma.