I just watched Usyk vs Fury 2....How do people think it was 8-4 or even 9-3?

Exactly I thought round 9 was one of Fury's best rounds of the fight this guys scoring is all over the place.

Like he scored round 8 for Fury which was a strong round for Usyk.

And he scored round 11 even which pretty much everyone scored for Usyk.

I mean yeah we can all make up mental gymnastics and give Fury every somewhat debatable round give him a draw but most impartial people who scored the fight had Usyk winning clearly in a competitive fight.

 

You either have bias or you're not very good at scoring fights end of your scoring is all over place and certain rounds you scored make no logical sense namely rounds 8, 9, and 11.

 

You're the delusional one here my guy not me your the one being ridiculed in this thread for your bad scoring and your opinion is the minority.

Hence I think it's more of a "you" issue.

 

You had the 1st fight a draw lol and Fury winning this fight I don't even have to say anything your bias or your inability to score fights properly speaks for itself.

 

They are scoring punches AND an investment that pays off in the later rounds.

I swear the majority of folks crying robbery on things don't properly account good bodywork into their scoring

 

Usyk's bodywork did its job, making Fury lower his guard to defend the body but Usyk would go upstairs instead. An Usyk feint would have Fury confused at times to where should he guard, his head or his body, opening himself up for some Usyk left hands. Usyk's bodyshots were very effective and a major component of his overall fight strategy. A good lesson for students of boxing.

 

I only gave Fury 2. (round 5 I didn't originally score in the RBR due to my stream going out, but went back and watched that specific round and it was a Fury round). Round 9 to me was Fury's best round. I also think Fury could've won round 1 and noted the round's closeness in the RBR. Nothing really happened. That's 3. Maybe Fury won round 10 as I noted that was a great round for both. That's 4. There is absolutely no other round I'd even consider for Fury. Whatever Fury did, Usyk took it back, he was just a bit better.

It was a competitive fight, not a close fight..............to me. It was very competitive and I even said that in the RBR there were a couple rounds that Fury lost that he was going to complain about and there would be a controversy about the scoring. I also said that one reason would be that Usyk was doing great bodywork and so many people don't score bodywork at all. And a lot of people didn't. Fury's complaining doesn't really make sense to me, giving a spirited effort doesn't mean you're winning rounds. Kinda like Gatti/Ward 2, M Ward was competitive, but the whole time, he was still losing rounds to Gatti. Or Wright/Mosley, Shane was fighting hard and it was competitive, but he was still losing rounds to Winky. That's how I saw Usyk/Fury.

 

This sums it up people just don't understand you can have a competitive fight but still have a clear winner.

Mosley vs Wright 2 is a good example I'd also say Barrera vs Jones 2 is another good example of that.

 

Exactly, there's actually an abundance of fights you can watch and say "hey this is very competitive", but the loser is still not winning any rounds. The ESPN FNF platform was built around that premise

 

I cannot watch the first round again as don't have subscriptions, need to wait for it on YT. But really where I am coming from is pretty simple - if it's not clear in your mind who won a round, it's a draw. And similar for nothing rounds. You shouldn't be able to nick rounds by running around for the last minute of it (and losing the first two), you should maybe be able to nick a draw.

Warren was dumbfounded at the scorecards, but personally the most amazing thing is three guys could watch that fight and not score a single round as a draw. And hence you have one of the scorecards giving the first to Usyk, yet they all align at 19-19 after two. I suspect they lean alternate ways from close round to close round. Whereas clear rounds such as 5 & 6, all the cards agree.

If you look at the judges scorecards and score any round where the judges don't agree as a draw, that'd be close to my idea of scoring a fight. Rounds 1, 2, 3, 9 & 12 as a draw. 4&5 to Fury, 6,7,8,10,11 to Usyk. Usyk winning by 3 non contentious unanimous points.

 

Your scoring says otherwise.

Besides which, it's just not true - we all have our biases, and by and large it's pretty near impossible to set them aside without acknowledging them first.

Usyk won this clear, 8-4 is not unreasonable at all... Like the first fight, many rounds were somewhat competitive, but that doesn't mean that they're not pretty clearly Usyk if you score them properly.

You can have fights where it's quite competitive in almost every round and yet still not close on the cards... And you can have fights where no rounds at all are close, every round is dominated by one fighter or the other and yet get to a draw.

Just because the correct score isn't that close doesn't mean it wasn't competitive - but both times, Usyk clearly won if you scored it right.

 

Know what else gets old? People always crying about judging when their hero loses. It was a clear victory for Usyk. If slavery was legal, Usyk would be Fury's master. LOL