Usyk v. Holyfield

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Who wins these bouts?

  1. (CRUISERWEIGHT) Usyk via PTS

    12 vote(s)
    44.4%
  2. (CRUISERWEIGHT) Usyk via KO/TKO/Stoppage

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. (CRUISERWEIGHT) Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. (CRUISERWEIGHT) Holyfield via KO/TKO/Stoppage

    1 vote(s)
    3.7%
  5. (CRUISERWEIGHT) Holyfield via PTS

    11 vote(s)
    40.7%
  6. (HEAVYWEIGHT) Usyk via PTS

    10 vote(s)
    37.0%
  7. (HEAVYWEIGHT) Usyk via KO/TKO/Stoppage

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. (HEAVYWEIGHT) Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. (HEAVYWEIGHT) Holyfield via KO/TKO/Stoppage

    2 vote(s)
    7.4%
  10. (HEAVYWEIGHT) Holyfield via PTS

    15 vote(s)
    55.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. dcarlota

    dcarlota Member Full Member

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    (Pick 1 response per weight class)

    1 - At heavyweight (Usyk - 2024 - Fury I/Fury II) (Holyfield - 1992 - Holmes)
    2 - At cruiserweight (Usyk - 2018 - Gassiev) (Holyfield - 1987/'88 - Qawi/de Leon)
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    1. Heavyweight : Holyfield SD
    2. Cruiserweight: Usyk UD

    Reason i am picking 92 Holyfield over 2024 Usyk is because 2024 Usyk, while still prime, isn't quite as energetic as 2021/22 Usyk. He is no longer throwing 600 punches or so. He might still be able to but i think his work rate has dipped a bit. I think 92 Holyfield was so young, he would be able to slightly outfight the older man.

    At cruiser, i feel Usyk faced and beat better fighters, and he could maintain such an unreal work rate, i think he would outwork Holyfield for a close UD.

    If you take 2021 or even 2022 Usyk, i would slightly favour him over Holy. But since you picked 2024 Usyk, i chose Holyfield.
     
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  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    What a fight at either weight
    Holy win s decision at cruiser
    They split a pair of fight s at heavy.
     
  5. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfield wins at both weights in a clear but competitive fashion. He is all kinds of wrong for Usyk.
     
  6. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    CW: Usyk SD
    HW: Holyfield UD
     
  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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  8. Smoochie

    Smoochie Harry Greb Footage Hunter Full Member

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  9. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Hey! I thought humor was not allowed in Classic! :lol:
     
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  10. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

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    Holyfield a very hard one. Holyfield is unlike Usyk has ever fought, skillful, fast, tough and crafty. I feel Usyk struggles a little more against these type of tough aggressive old-school fighters who can deal with boxers and movers well than the likes of AJ and Fury. I think Holyfield would get the decision against Usyk but I can see the argument for a toss up.
     
  11. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Struggled with Mairis Briedis
     
  12. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Usyk too fast, too slick for Holy at Cw. Wins a UD.

    Holy too roided up at HW and wins a UD.
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think best version of Holyfield at both weights aka Qawi 2 at Cruiserweight and Bowe 2 at Heavyweight could outpoint Usyk.

    A prime Holyfield is considerably better than anyone Usyk has faced.
     
  14. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get the impression that a lot of people think Briedis is up there.
     
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  15. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, I am what one would call a severe Usyk critic but............

    Holyfield vs South paws.....

    Two tries vs glass chinned Moorer, first loss due to malfunctioning Roid cycle not imaginary heart problems, win vs a brawling Moorer not the Boxing one from first fight....................Moorer was one shot stopped by a slow as Molasses Grandpa right after the Holyfiled win.

    Washed up Holyfield was clowned by feather fist Byrd, also a South paw.

    Holyfield is also 1-2 vs Bowe, 0-2 vs Lewis and 1-1- 1 vs Huggybear....................I know Tyson Tyson Tyson.

    The idea that Holyfield is some kind of Dragon slayer is absurd, he lost more then he won.

    I give him ther benefit of the doubt and make him the favorite at Cruiser but at Heavy PED's or not , he is going to loose.
     
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