Tyson Fury: Physically Strong but Mentally Weak

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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Tyson Fury showed his mental weakness and lack of self-control once again, by being a glutton and coming in for the second fight with Usyk at about 30 pounds above his best fighting weight. His spare tire was jiggling during the fight.

    If Fury had been lighter, he might have won. He wasn't as quick on his feet as he's been in the past (for example, Wilder II), and wasn't able to sustain an attack without getting tired. This was especially true during the last three rounds of the fight.

    His talk of being robbed after the fight is another indication of mental weakness - he's was unable to mentally deal with the reality that he lost the fight.

    In past years, Fury showed physical capability, but mental weakness - his ballooning up in weight to well over 300 pounds, his drug use, his retiring and un-retiring multiple times, and his silly comments to the press without considering the consequences of his words.

    He shows his insecurity by using steroids, always talking about other's appearances, always belittling others, hiding behind a thick beard, having his trunks absurdly high, and denying others as worthy to fight him despite being obviously worthy. And recently, he's shown himself to be a sore loser too.

    Tyson Fury is not an all-time great heavyweight, but he would have been if he had a stronger mind to go along with his physical capabilities.
     
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  2. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson Fury is bipolar and mentally weak, and this was reflected in his last three performances when he was not consistent during fights...
     
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  3. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    Fury won that fight... he managed the distance and connected with body shots (not very showy) but countable in his favor... I think he made a mistake by gaining so much weight... but the guy got off drugs, beat Wilder... and fought Usyk... in the first fight after being knocked out he came back and continued fighting... I think he is a tough guy who lacks discipline and self-control... but he has heart
     
  4. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Pound for pound Usyk is a lot stronger than Fury. I don't think Fury is particularly strong just big and heavy. Francis Ngannou tossed him off with ease when he tried to do his lean and smother tactic on him. Of course those tactics work better on opponents who weigh 50 pounds less and/or have chicken legs.

    Instead of actually hitting the weight room and putting on muscle, he took the easy route of stuffing his face and just gaining fat. Of course as we saw you eventually pay the price for that.
     
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  5. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Very respectable for what he has done with that stuff. But it’s not a pity contest, only 3 defences in his champion reign is not hof worthy. His personality and feeling pity on him may get him in hof
     
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    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Ngannou is just insanely strong to be fair, he'd do that to just about any boxer that tried to lean on him. Fury had no problem clinching Whyte who is a strong 250 lbs heavyweight.
     
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    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    I think it’s just not that simple. He may be mentally weak in some way(s), but he’s also gotten off the canvas several times after getting dropped by the hardest puncher in the division, not exactly the stuff of mentally weak people.

    With that said, I did feel like the Usyk rematch was his to win and he just didn’t press the issue or assert himself enough when he needed to. I know it ain’t easy with Usyk in front of you, but the few times he did, he visibly rattled Usyk.. Credit again to Usyk for taking it right to him and preventing him from gaining any confidence.
     
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    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson did all his best work in the first half of the fight.

    I had Fury winning Rds 2,3,4 and 5.

    Then Usyk had enough data on his and could just anticipate and counter whatever was coming his way.

    Fury had Plan A (or one that he mentally commited to the most) while Usyk probably had several game plans and changed them on the fly.
     
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    I understand round 4 or 5, but how can you see Fury winning round 2 or 3? It is a little bit biased, little bit a lot actually.
     
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    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    I disagree. Fury came back from the brink of suicide to reclaim the HW championship and did so by scraping himself off the canvas against one of the biggest punchers in boxing history. He's been dropped and hurt by plenty of fighters but he always got up and until Usyk always won. In the 1st fight against Usyk, Fury was totally out of it in the 9th, yet he came back and fought his way to the final bell. Fury didn't show as much ambition in the 2nd fight as he did in the 1st if you ask me and was a bit too conservative at times but he still looked strong and dangerous. He didn't seem to gas too hard in the championship rounds and still made each round close. Fury has been through a tremendous amount of hardship both in and out of the ring, he is many things (many of them quite negative imo) but mentally weak isn't one.
     
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    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Nah. Not mentally weak.
     
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    “Mentally weak” isn’t quite the right term to describe Fury; if he were mentally weak, he would have offed himself in 2017 and never come back from 400 lbs to beat Wilder and win the WBC.

    He got dropped in round 9 by an ATG in Usyk and he came back to finish the fight relatively competitively. He got dropped twice in the same round in Wilder 3 and got up to knock him out cold a few rounds later. A mentally weak fighter couldn’t have done those things.

    “Inconsistent” and “money-oriented” is a better way to describe him. He delayed the 2nd Wilder fight by a year to lock in a big money ESPN deal instead of rematching Wilder immediately. He delayed the Usyk fights not because he was scared, but to maximise the Saudi payday he’d get from them. They were brilliant decisions financially that probably earned him about $250m in total, but they affected his boxing career negatively.

    Ultimately he doesn’t live the life of a fighter 24/7 like Usyk does, nor is his one and only focus purely on boxing (as he prioritises money first), and that’s why Fury is a top 20ish HW H2H of all time but he’s not quite on Usyk’s level.
     
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    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Physically strong like a soggy bag of milk ready to rip apart at the seams.
     
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    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    of course hes weak. hes shown that consistently through his whole career. in and out of the ring. we arent judging the local grocery store manager, were talking about the hw champion of the world. he gets measured with the same stick they did, not the one used for nobodies.
     
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    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say he's mentally weak in some ways but mentally weak in sport usually means someone who cannot handle pressure and 'chokes' or folds when things get tough. In that sense Fury is mentally tough.

    His lack of discipline and self-control and 'mental health problem' is a version of mental weakness, but it's not fair to call him mentally weak as a competitor because he's actually one of the strongest there.

    Some of the discipline issues are related to his horrendous team, promoter and family (namely his father) who enable him. For instance, remember when Davison had Fury around 255lbs (which was basically a miracle coming from the carnival fatman level) and then the father started telling Fury he was being overtrained and was too light and even blamed the Wallin performance on that. From that point Fury started packing on the weight again.