Tyson Fury: Physically Strong but Mentally Weak

Hes always been inconsistent and sometimes brilliant sometimes not. Hes mentally quite fragile and despises anyone who doesnt call him the greatest heavyweight ever. Its a shame because he has the height, reach maybe even weight (sure he might be too fat sometimes rather than muscular) to be even greater, but he instead chose to f around with drugs alcohol and put on 15 stones after he beat Wlad.

 

A lot of what you say is true. Although you say steroid use all these professional athletes are on them trust me. Even university/ college athletes take them. As for being 30 pounds overweight, and having a 'spare tyre' being fat isnt necessarily bad in boxing, expecially at heavyweight, regardless he was 273lbs in Wilder 2, 281lbs for the Usyk 2 fight. I agree he looked slow but at the same time Usyk is a far superior boxer to Wilder so obviously harder to watch and naturally much smaller than Fury. Even if Fury won a couple more rounds its unlikely he would even win simply because you have to get a huge lead over a sitting champion or knock him out in boxing to beat them, theres usually a huge bias towards the champion. In the first fight I think he actually boxed a lot better and smarter. He hurt Usyk badly and was totally dominated in the middle rounds. Even before that he was keeping it long and boxing. If he didnt get knocked down like he did I think he would of either won or drawn it on the judges cards. He was 20 pounds lighter in the first fight and much faster amd able to get his shots off. Yet he decided to put on 20 pounds against a fighter who was already way smaller than him and therefore faster. I dont get why he was 8 pounds heavier than Wilder 2 at an older age when you get heavier anyway. 273lb might of worked eventhough hes much older 281 no. And he never imposed his size on Usyk. Even in the fight fight he could of tried leaning on Usyk a lot more, more dirty inside fighting, maybe even push him down to the floor something along those lines. Instead hes always been intimidated by Usyk. I knew Fury was finished when he started to fight with Derek Chisora and Ngannou instead of actually competitive fighters and when he started saying how he didnt care one bit about belts or good fights or legacy and only about making as much money as possible. When a man only cares about money rather than being the best boxer you know hes lost the dog in him. Def mentally, perhaps physically too getting older, hes not looked after himself at all, plus hes taken big damage.

 

He didnt win the fight he boxed much better in the first fight, but he should never have had his chin unprotected against a naturally faster and therefore smaller opponent. He took so many of those big left hands and eventually he got knocked down badly.

 

lol i think its more the coke, alcohol and ballooning over 30 stones! Weights are very debatable, can make a fighter too slow but also gas out easy. Also hard to train with sore muscles. But hey maybe you recover better when you take steroids like these top athletes too.

 

Dedication/discipline is very different to footwork though? You do realise in boxing you have technical ability, mental ability, and physical ability. The mental side of Tyson Fury was literally the question. Look at Mike Tyson for example, its my opinion but I believe if he had been in the right mindset after he had beaten Spinks, I think he would have had a better career. I also believe that way about Riddick Bowe after he beat Holyfield in 1992.

 

Fury is dedicated. Don’t make excuses for him.
im trying to say that what makes a fighter is everything about him, what you see as a negative is part of what makes them special.

Fury is extremely fit, it’s probably his greatest attribute. You don’t get that with little dedication. He has done this since childhood and reached the top. His unpredictability makes him better and special.
There was never going to be a way a 20st boxer was going to be fitter than usyk. AJ wasnt and I doubt any career heavy will be.any cruiser coming up in weight would try to outwork the heavyweight. That’s their way to win.


Nobody would teach to do the unorthodox things Ali, Naz, Liston (shootings etc) and many others did. But these are what made them special.
This is how styles, intrigue develop.

Humans are flawed and there is not one perfect style or person.


also, Technical ability can be improved upon. Wilder was not born into boxing and took it up late.

 

Fury has been caught, most others haven’t though.

 

Anybody who's followed Tyson Fury's career knows that he's always been a headcase. The guy legitimately has bipolar disorder. He's always exhibiting extreme manic or depressive behaviors. Sometimes he would shock the world putting on an extraordinary performance against fighters like Klitschko or Wilder. And other times he would be eating, drinking and snorting himself towards an early grave. You never know what you're going to get from Tyson.

The thing is boxing is not a sport for those with half-hearted commitment. We all knew that sooner or later Tyson's lifestyle was going to catch up with him and we started to see that with the Chisora fight or even possibly the third Wilder fight. Tyson had a talent as a fighter, but he squandered so much of it. That's why I don't think he would have survived long in the 90s heavyweight crop. Not because he couldn't compete there when he was at his best. But because he would always have to be at his best which he could never do.

That's not to take anything away from Usyk. There's no question that Usyk is both the more skillful and greater fighter between the two. A huge difference between them is that Usyk is a dedicated professional and Fury is... well, Fury.

 

He won world title around 10years ago, He’s only had 3 defences to his name. The rest has been fannying about.

 

Borrowing from others I would describe him as inconsistent, undisciplined, and money oriented. But once he is in the ring, he shows great heart. His only two losses are to Usyk, and he totally neutralized a Wlad who was within screaming distance of prime.

 

Fury is dedicated to some extent, but like Mike Tyson and Riddick Bowe - over the years Tyson Fury has not been as dedicated as he could have been. I don't even support Fury or Uysk but it is obvious that Fury has not had the best lifestyle over the years.

No offence but Fury did a lot of drugs and alcohol over the years on top of not looking after his own weight, that is pretty obvious. Compare that to Usyk who probably hasn't even tried alcohol in his life. Fury did amazingly well to come back from his very dark days.

Fury's fitness is defo not his greatest attribute, do you even watch boxing? I'd say a combination of his size and skill is.

 

thats why longevity and defenses matter in assessing a fighters greatness. every man that comes for your belt is bringing 110% of everything youve ever seen from him. maybe 80% of you is enough for a couple guys, but it aint gonna be enough for all of them.

 

In my opinion His fitness is one of his greatest attributes. As is his size and ring generalship. His engine is excellent for a guy his size. But smaller guys generally have better engines.
his fitness got him through wilder 1 and 3.

I don’t think you’re understanding my point…if my auntie had balls she’d be my uncle.
Fury is fury. Just like every fighter is who they are. None are perfect. You just sound like you’re trying to give him excuses.

 

Excellent point!