Usyk in the 70s.

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  1. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just like against Axel Schultz.
     
  2. Overseas

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    I know it's blasphemous but I think Usyk would have a harder time stylistically against Frazier than Ali
     
  3. Boxed Ears

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    You've heard of elf on a shelf? Now how about Usyk...Oleksandr...on a...Usyk on a...in the best era. That wasn't a good one, I'm sorry. Someone help me.
     
  4. Reinhardt

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    ,,,somebody call the medics!
     
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  5. The Cryptkeeper

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    What’s Fury’s best win? Old Wlad?

    He’s a B grader. Seriously. If he’s getting chinned by Ngannou then Foreman puts him in a hearse.
     
  6. Loudon

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    Frazier would have been incredibly difficult.
     
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  7. Loudon

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    Terrible logic.
     
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  8. Loudon

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    He wouldn’t have dominated Frazier.

    He doesn’t have anything to have kept him from constantly pressuring him.
     
  9. Loudon

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    Another ridiculous post by you.

    Do you not understand styles?

    He barely beat Breidis.

    He’s not Superman.
     
  10. Loudon

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    One dimensional?
     
  11. PolishAssasin

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    I feel like Ali and Cooper could fight six times, and it would never happen again.
     
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  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Frazier would have been no problem?

    Ha!

    Get real.


    Look at Ali-Frazier.

    Frazier suffocated him on the inside, because Ali couldn’t keep him off of him.


    Frazier would have been a terrible stylistic match up for him.


    There’s no way Usyk was dominating all of those guys.

    Do you even watch the fights, and appreciate the styles?

    He barely beat Breidis in his prime.
     
  13. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman could hit, but he could be beat.

    He was beat by Jimmy Young and outpointed by Tommy Morison of all people.

    He was outboxed by Axle Schultz -- another hall of famer (not).

    Foreman was not unbeatable. He could be outboxed.

    And Fury CAN box when he wants to. His combination of size, agility and boxing ability would be a challenge for slow of foot Foreman.

    If they stand each other and punch each other like rockem-sockem robots, I'd pick Foreman but Fury is smarter than that.
     
  14. Loudon

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    Oh dear.
     
  15. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Yes, I've always thought that Frazier was a nightmare matchup for Usyk. If you look at the fighters who traditionally gave Usyk problems they tended to be shorter stocky types with relentless pressure and constant head movement. Well, Frazier was pretty much the example par excellence of that type of fighter, and his lack of size relative to modern SHWs wouldn't be as big an issue for the comparatively more modest sized Usyk.

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    Yep. I think Holmes is hugely overrated in his versatility. That doesn't me I think he sucked of course. Wlad was one-dimensional as well, but hugely effective within that narrow band.
     
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