Usyk in the 70s.

You're underestimating how much he bulked up in his heavyweight run which was around 20Ib, even his punches are harder he was a soft puncher in cruiserweight but in heavyweight he's hurt pretty much every opponent he's fought. And both Joshua and Fury tried to bully him they just failed to do so because Usyk was too slick and tricky and pushed them off whenever they tried anything.

 

I can acknowledge that size is a factor.

It’s you who can’t acknowledge it.


Because you are only looking from the ONE perspective.

Let me enlighten you on something:


In SOME specific stylistic match ups, being the SMALLER guy can also be an ADVANTAGE.

Being the bigger man is not always an advantage to the bigger guy.


If Wilder had fought Mike, his size advantages on paper, would have been a disadvantage to him in the ring.


Now the answer to my question is very easy to answer.

Why was Breidis a harder fight for Usyk, than AJ?

STYLES.


That is it.


A small, fast pressure fighter would always be a tough stylistic match up for Usyk. Because he can’t get rid of them like Foreman did, even if he could have beaten Foreman himself.

Styles.


Usyk would not have bullied Frazier. And Frazier being smaller, with his specific style, would have been an advantage to him, and problematic to Usyk.


Now you’re really tying yourself up in knots here.

Because AJ being much, bigger, stronger and heavier than Usyk, didn’t win him the fight.

Usyk being the smaller, faster and more elusive fighter won him the fight.


So: Usyk being smaller won him the fight.

Yet you’re saying that Frazier being smaller than Usyk would have been a disadvantage for him.

But it wouldn’t have.


Sizes are dependent on how they match up stylistically.


With their specific styles at 5’10, Mike and Frazier being smaller, would actually have made it harder for Usyk.

He wouldn’t have been too big for them.

 

He used movement mostly and pushed them off when they tried to clinch and lean on him. This is exactly my point, Usyk doesn't bully fighters, he would not try and manhandle Frazier. This isn't Usyks style. He would box Frazier like he did smaller Beterbiev. Usyk rehydrated to about 210 at cruiserweight, he wasn't much smaller. Current Usyk isn't going to be significantly stronger than prime Usyk at cruiser.

You see cruiserweight Usyk as a completely different fighter to heavyweight Usyk, i don't. One is 10/15 pounds heavier and slower via eating more food and drinking more fluids

 

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It doesn’t matter that much what he weighed for Breidis.


The stylistic match up is was made it harder for him than fighting AJ.

That is all it was.


Whatever he weighed against Breidis, he’d always have struggled more.

Simply because he couldn’t out box and out manoeuvre Breidis as easy as what he could against AJ.

Breidis was smaller and faster than AJ, and he pressured him and caused him issues up close.

 

So: Usyk being smaller and faster was an advantage to him.

Yet at the same time, you’re saying that anybody who was smaller than Usyk, would have been at a disadvantage against him.

No.

Not necessarily.

Because it has to depend on the styles.

 

That's why Floyd would beat any superheavyweight because STYLES BRUH delusional

 

Do you think the Usyk who fought Breidis would beat AJ? Based on your answer to that shows if you can actually think or are delusional

 

The irony of you calling me delusional is simply staggering.


You have just made a comparison between two HEAVYWEIGHTS, and then a WW and a HW.

I despair.


Again, the weights for Briedis and AJ weren’t the main factors as to why one fight was harder.

Again, it was the stylistic match ups.


Stylistically, Breidis was just a harder fight for him.

Not because he’s better than AJ.

Just because his style was more problematic.

 

He pressures them and forces them on the backfoot which isnt that different from how you bully fighters sure he isn't as physical but he is a pressure fighter. He looks smaller and lighter at cruiserweight and bulked up at heavyweight where he's not as fast but is much stronger and that's why he can compete with superheavyweights. Because you don't understand how size or physical conditioning work as certain other people fail to understand here since they're stuck in the past but that's fine. Again at cruiserweight he was much lighter on his feet and didn't hit has hard at heavyweight he hits harder and isn't as fast but it allows him to keep up with superheavyweights and not get bullied around by them, its all about tradeoffs

 

You can't just reduce everything to style there's more to Boxing then that but clearly I'm the delusional one for considering all factors not just "style"

 

But he doesn't. Usyk doesn't allow other fighters to bully him but Usyk isn't the bully nor does he clinch often. He doesn't physically overwealm and overpower his opponents beyond footwork, volume, making the fighter burn more energy, mentally draining them. Smaller pressure fighters beating larger stronger opponents isn't new

 

You’ve again missed the point.


The point was:

A smaller fighter was harder for him to fight, than a guy who was much bigger, heavier and stronger.


Not specifically because of what Usyk weighed himself.

But because of how they matched up on the night stylistically.


So all you’re doing is trying to deflect.

Your question is not in any way relevant.


However, I’ll answer it anyway.

I believe that Usyk is that great, that he didn’t have to add as much bulk. But people in those situations like to bulk up significantly. And it’s just as important for them psychologically as what it is physically.

But I wouldn’t say that AJ would definitely have beaten the Breidis version. Not at all. Because he’d still have been faced with the same speed, skills and angles etc. Usyk’s power didn’t deter AJ. It was his movement.


Either way, it’s simply not relevant to my point.

Which again, was:


Breidis caused him more issues than AJ did, due to styles, not specifically what Usyk weighed.

 

Sure so what's your point? The fact he doesn't allow larger guys to bully him means smaller fighters also wouldn't be able to logically speaking

 

I haven’t done that.

But you have been completely ignorant of it.

 

It was a lot of reasons reducing it down to just styles is reductive af and ignores all the other factors involved size being one