Usyk in the 70s.

There’s always lots of factors to look at.


Yet this you:

Frazier would be bullied, because he’s smaller.


You haven’t given any thought to how they’d have matched up on the night stylistically.

 

That doesn't mean he won't be on the backfoot. Frazier isn't going to physically bully him around, he doesn't need to in order to land a punch....

 

And you aren't considering size at all nor the fact Usyk wouldn't just stand in front of Frazier with his hands down nor the fact Usyk can very likely hurt Frazier but you reduce everything to muh styles.

 

His style was based around it and unlike Ali Usyk isn't vulnerable to a left hook nor will he just stand there and let Frazier tee off on him

 

See my post above.

 

I consider everything.

I have given you analogies of where being smaller is actually an advantage in SOME fights.


Nobody has said that Usyk would just stand there.

But the point is, he couldn’t physically man handle him and knock him out quick like Foreman could.

Because he’s a technical chess master, not an aggressive puncher with huge power.


Now unless you could get rid of Frazier, he just kept coming at you relentlessly like Marciano.

So that means that Frazier would have given Usyk a very tough fight.


You can’t just dismiss him, by saying that Usyk would bully him because Frazier was smaller.

After all, Usyk wasn’t bullied by AJ, despite being smaller and less powerful than what he was.

 

You really have been ignorant today.

Because he could handle the bigger AJ, you have convinced yourself that he could have handled Frazier really easy, as Frazier was obviously much smaller than AJ.

But that really is terrible logic, especially when you know that he beat AJ easily, yet struggled with Breidis.

It’s a very ignorant outlook.

 

Clearly I've given it much more thought then you considering you think Frazier will magically be able to do the things he normally does to fighters he physically outmatches despite Usyk being much physically stronger cause of the magic styles not realizing styles don't mean anything if you lack the physicality to actually impose your style.

 

The difference between us is i can actually think logically and rationalize you clearly can't and can only repeat dumb narratives that are repeated by old heads who have never watched modern boxing.

 

I’ve never said anything of the sort.

I just said that Usyk will have a hard night against a small, fast, power punching pressure fighter, as he couldn’t get rid of him early, or maybe not even at all, like a guy like Foreman could.

That’s what I’ve said.

I didn’t even say that he couldn’t win.

I just said that stylistically, it would have been a very tough night.

You are the one who has assumed that he’d have beaten Frazier with absolutely ease, just because Frazier was smaller.

 

Not remotely the same Frazier can't physically overpower Usyk like some of those other guys did

 

Again if Frazier can't impose himself on you he's pretty much can't do anything else and I don't see how he can impose himself on Usyk who's bigger and stronger then him all the pressure fighters who gave Usyk a tough time were guys who could impose themselves on him

 

Ha!

This is you and your logic:

“Usyk could push around a super HW, so why couldn’t he easily have pushed around the smaller Frazier?”

 

Yes what's wrong with that logic where am I wrong?

 

Why couldn’t Frazier have imposed himself on Usyk??

Again, Usyk is a chess master.

He’s a boxer.

He hasn’t got huge power to have taken Frazier out.

So why wouldn’t Frazier have imposed himself?

You can literally watch 3 fights against Ali, who was the same size as Usyk, and who also didn’t have huge power to stop him from pouring forward at every opportunity.

You can see that he cut down Ali’s time and space by relentlessly stalking him and throwing power punches at him.

The clash of styles tells us that it would have been a competitive fight.