Tyson Fury: Physically Strong but Mentally Weak

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    So much copium is all this post-mortem analysis and the not so subtle attempts to try and discredit Usyk.

    Where was all this talk before the fight? You'd think Belly was the one who is about to turn 38 in two weeks, had the deck heavily stacked against him and was the one giving away obscene physical advantages not Usyk

    The reason Belly lost AGAIN isn't complicated. It's because Usyk is the much better man and fighter (and I totally get that this threatens an awful lot of people and makes them feel very uncomfortable) because he's a generational talent, an ATG, and the greatest fighter of his generation who is a very complete fighter who in addition to his athleticism and all his physical gifts and elite skills is incredibly mentally strong, determined and resilient, is super tough and fit, versatile and has virtually no real weaknesses and he can adapt, change styles, and find a way to win despite having everything stacked against him

    How did this guy from over in that part of the world manage to achieve everything, be this great, and slay all these way bigger giants? Surely there has to be a reason and it can't be because he's just that good it has to be a weak era, the fighters he beat aren't any good, he just got lucky.

    Lucky winning his Olympic gold, World Amateur gold. European gold. Unifying the CW division in just 15 fights. Unifying the HW division in just 22. Doing it all in his opponent's backyards or on the road

    And all whilst being the B-side and never having being dropped or badly hurt (low blow doesn't count), or on wobbly legs despite having run through a gauntlet of murderous punchers, murderous punching giants, giants and legit bangers like few others and he beat them all via the use of clean boxing and pure skill with zero fouling or deck-stacking

    Hating on Usyk of all people says an awful lot about not only the kind of fan you are but the kind of person you are and if any of your current favs had done what he has done and in the manner he did it every single one of you would be whistling a completely different tune and we wouldn't hear a single excuse from you

    Usyk is just that good. Deal with it
     
  2. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    They struggle to cope and too busy giving excuses. Fury has become the media’s number 1 and industry favourite. All the decks are stacked in his favour. Yet people still act as though he is a victim somehow
     
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  3. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Man rewatching this Fury looks like such a goofball popping his eyes out trying to intimidate Usyk in the staredown. What a sad little man. Grew that stupid beard out for nothing too
     
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  4. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    This post should be stickied at the beginning of every thread of every section on this site: General, Classic, Lounge, MMA… doesn’t matter.
     
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  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree. Really don't like the guy, but he has a very strong mind inside the ring.

    And, yes, his body didn't look good at all, but he still showed good stamina. I have no good explanation for that, but it's how it works for him.
     
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  6. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    Well you're clearly wrong but we'll move on as you've already been disproven.
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What are you talking about? How has he been disproven? Clearly there aren't many 270+ lbs guys with Fury's work rate. And of course the most coordinated 6'9 isn't going to be as coordinated as the most coordinated 5'9 guy. Have you seen many Olympic gymnasts Fury's size?

    His agility and work rate are quite special for someone his size. His body looked like ****, but just the fact that the very last minute was one of his best during the fight shows that his shape was much better than his body looked.
     
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  8. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    Larry Holmes wasn’t exactly an Adonis in terms of his physique, but he was a legit 15 round fighter. Although they’re the exceptions to the rule, some guys have stamina that is a lot better than their bodies lead us to believe.
     
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  9. highlander

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    i would call him un disciplined, lazy, and lacking heart.
    1- he never respected himself and the sport
    2- if he had, he would have kept himself in some sort of decent condition between fights
    3- lacking heart. i.e. not equating with his natural ability to recover from punches, which he has in abundance, but in terms of being a DOMINANT champion. a dominant champion fights ALL of his opponents the same. if one is a puncher, you blast them out. if one is stylist, put on show. he had some of both qualities yet really never capitalized on either. he fought DOWN to his opponents, yet some here praise that. why? a true champion would have blasted wallen out. a true champion would have blasted an m.m.a. fighter in his first boxing match, yet he went life and death with him. a true champion would have taken on the current crop of the top contenders. instead, we had rematches with opponents whom he had already defeated. he did not have heat.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks

    The UDS has gone through the roof since he slayed the Gypsy Giant for the second time. So much insecurity, cope and baba tears and so many salty haters
     
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  11. elrond_buggard

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    I supported Usyk all the way in their fights, but Fury's fights have provided some of the most high-level edge-of-seat emotions I've ever had when watching boxing. The Wilder trilogy and Usyk 1 are legendary fights that showed Fury has heart and grit in spades (not to mention his wavering but entertaining performances against the likes of Wallin and Cunningham), and his career's been a rollercoaster that's been fascinating to watch. He's shown vulnerability throughout his entire career, yet always battled through it and never crumbled, winning every HW title along the way. Mentally weak? No. Poor discipline? Yes.

    Love him or hate him, Fury is a HoF shoe-in and a legend in my book.
     
  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    the book of elrond is fiction.
     
  13. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are saying fury is dumb as a rock? Totally agree.
     
  14. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Prior to the rematch I read a lot of hedging of bets re Fury.

    Many said Fury was shot BUT if he could come back and beat Usyk - how great would that be?

    If Fury had beaten a Usyk that hadn’t deteriorated himself, it would’ve absolutely belied the claim that Fury was shot. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

    And, just as it was prior to the first fight, many felt that they perceived a Fury who had it all together THIS TIME for the rematch, the mental focus, the necessary aggression etc. -

    Yes this time it was going to be different - with the tag that Fury always did so much better in rematches also.

    He was too “light” before - though many were excited at his relatively svelte 262 lbs for the first fight - the catch cry was that a fit Fury beats Usyk and there he was, a fit Fury who still was clearly beaten.

    But, when the smoke cleared after the rematch, STILL the excuses come. Now Tyson was too heavy, yada yada, so on and so forth.

    So yeah, in some instances but not all, I’ve read a discrediting of Fury ONLY after the fact of losing to Usyk - or at least pundits having “each way” bets going into each fight.

    Now proof perhaps of some pundits discrediting Fury only for the sake of discrediting Usyk (fully or partially)is that: -

    Between fights 1 and 2, before the factual result of fight 2 was known, support from certain fans began to swell again for Fury and a potential victory -

    Support from those very same pundits who said Fury was shot and implied that they had written him off after fight 1 - but clearly, they hadn’t really written Tyson off - only doing so in superficial terms, directly on the heels of Usyk’s first victory over The Gypsy King.
     
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  15. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I can’t see where anyone has proved fury has poor engine…this is the first time hearing such things. His 12th rounds are often the best and his engine is the main reason for his excellent recovery powers…or does he not have good recovery powers either?

    Fury probably does more roadwork than 99% of boxers.
     
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