What short (under 5'9") WWs would you favor over Hearns?

Hagler is about 5ft8 stares between him and other “5ft9” fighters taught me, people who’ve met him always comment on how small he is, that he’s likely 5ft8-5ft8.5.

 

So was Benitez under 5'9" as well? They were virtually eye-to-eye during the opening staredown @ 0:23 of this vid.

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Considering the first paper written on rampart steroid abuse was written in the 70s and fighters since then have been using… Duran admitted to using steroids, never caught no proof nothing BUT he admitted it - we aren’t going to find any (much) proof… testing was a joke then, was for a long time, Lennox had contracts signed that stipulated he wouldn’t be tested for PED’s… I think it’s cruel to call them a “cheat” I think it’d be safer to assume every guy from the era (and still) might’ve been experimenting with PED’s and not spend all our time going after Holyfield, Toney and Marquez it’s more likely then not everybody is using, these are million dollar athletes, I personally don’t care either way and just look at the version of the fighters that show up in the ring whatever it took to get there.

 

So you are saying that Hearns was basically a mediocre welter?

Tell Ray rhat and read his autobiography.

Before the Leonard fight experts were saying he was like a fighter created by a commitee to be totally invincible.

 

The poster said that they ALL use them …and that it’s impossible to be a world class athlete without PEDs

 

Yes, and I find that insulting to athletes who have never even had the slightest suspicion of using PEDs.

Like Tommy.

 

Basilio...

 

It is absolutely true and you would know that if you had watched the documentary "Icarus". Multiple top level athletes speak towards the drug cheating that occurs, it is essentially an open secret.

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Watch this and come back trying to claim what you usually do. There is a reason why athletics have decreased since the 80s-90s, the drug tests got better which disallowed certain stronger compounds from being used. Regardless, the drug tests can't actually keep up with the progress of drugs, which is why designer drugs and peptides are currently the PED of choice. Not every PED is an anabolic steroid like testosterone. I am sorry that you were fed the idea that winners don't use drugs for your life, or that drug usage is immoral. Neither are true.

 

Differing sources ig, still point stands, Hagler wins that fight even if he loses an inch off of his height and reach lol

 

Why do you seem to truly hate certain fighters?

 

No fighter that I hate was mentioned in this thread

 

Like I said, it isn't an insult or an attack on their moral character. It's just something that is required to be a world class athlete. Tommy Hearns fought during the times of the most rampant usage of anabolic steroids. They did not even test for some of his career. It is just obvious. Watch the video that I sent.

 

A prepared Roberto Duran

 

What about Dick Tiger he was 5'8?

 

You can't be serious!