Usyk at Heavyweight has lost barely over a dozen rounds.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Dec 27, 2024.


By your estimation, how many HW rounds has Usyk lost?

  1. 0-10

    19.0%
  2. 10-15

    26.2%
  3. 15-20

    31.0%
  4. 20-25

    19.0%
  5. 25+

    4.8%
  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    People need to edumacate themselves regarding the brilliance and subtly of Usyk's defence. Even in the Belly rematch I was like are you guys not seeing that Usyk is blocking or slipping so many of these shots or making them fall short by centimetres and inches

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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You're disagreeing with something different to what I said so I don't think this post was aimed at me tbh.
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok then good day to you.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    And to you too good sir
     
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  5. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's no way Chisora won more then 3 rounds max and even 3 is generous.
     
  6. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    He lost 3 vs Chisora,fought very intelligently here made Chisora blow his wad in the first half of the fight and ultimately destroyed him.
    1 vs Dubois
    4 vs Joshua 1
    5 vs Joshua 2(had Usyk winning the last 3 to take it 7-5)
    6 vs fury 1(114-113 Usyk)
    4 vs fury 2

    23 rounds
     
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  7. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    If he loses rounds they are usually in the beginning where Usyk is simply testing the soil
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think he is timing the southpaw jab over his opponent's orthodox jab.
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To be fair here a lot of the Usyk/Fury rounds were close enough to go either way. I respect your experience but you seem to be giving Usyk practically every close round which does seem a little bias to me.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You're not the first person to bring this up, and that mentality is so weird to me.

    Let's say Usyk and Fury box 50 rounds. 40 of them are super close and competitive, but Usyk lands more and lands a higher percentage in 35 of those rounds.

    It feels like some people are of the mind that it's "unfair" to Fury to give him only 5 of the 40 toss-up rounds. Like he's "due" for one now and then, because one guy shouldn't get too much so-called "benefit of the doubt". But IMO it's just as fallacious to give somebody an "attaboy" round for doing slightly better than the rounds in which they get clearly dominated, or to toss them an occasional bone because it feels like a shame to have them lose 35 rounds close but clear. If that's how it goes, though, that's how it goes. Each round viewed in a vacuum. If I've given 34 straight close rounds to Usyk, then the 35th is going to be judged on its own merits, and not with a mind towards "aw, gee, poor Fury's sitting over here waiting for a close round, I really oughtta give him one..."
     
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  11. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's not my point, and scoring is more than % of punches landed is it not? Otherwise just do away with having judges and just use punch stats to determine winners.

    It feels like a lot of people are just giving any remotely close round to Usyk based on personal feelings rather than measuring the fight in it's full context.
     
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  12. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    Percentage landed should have nothing to do with how you score a round. Its not an accuracy contest. You can land at a far worse accuracy, but land more effective punches. That should not be a consideration at all. Even total punches landed should be used with a grain of salt, because that does not demonstrate how effective they were. It seems you score fights just using compubox stats.

    If there are 40 genuinely close rounds its very unlikely one fighter clearly wins them almost all of them. I really dislike Fury yet so many of those rounds could have gone either way.
     
  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    I watched pretty much all the Usyk tape available and he made some very pivotal adjustments with his fighting style when he stepped up to AJ and then even further when he fought Fury. Fury almost unravelled him but Fury got tired and then Usyk trusted his training and his commitment and dedication came through victorious. Impressive stuff. The adaptations both Fury & Usyk have done through their careers are impressive, it's very rare you see style changes but both have quite a fair bit. It's sad that Fury's style has changed a fair bit post 2020 probably due to his elbow surgeries. Not able to use his jab like he used to is painful to watch but he developed a decent uppercut which really saved him from getting eaten alive by Usyk. The best part is him switching in their 2nd bout to land his left hand uppercut because Usyk did a good job avoiding his right uppercut. Funny stuff although a little desperate.
     
  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's not Mexican, American or British and therefore doesn't have a large ethnic following that the suits can monetize. Which is why he's been subjected to terrible cards and awarded split decision victories in fights that he in reality won wide on the cards. A magnificent fighter who has lost very few rounds against the best HWs in the world.
     
  15. Ryeece

    Ryeece Member Full Member

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    3/4ish Chisora
    10ish Fury
    8ish AJ
    1 DD

    IMO. So around 22.
     
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