Fury Usyk I was their last dance

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Their final hurrah

    Both should retire

    Both came in worse for the rematch physically as the laws of entropy dictate

    But I guess $30-50m could stop anyone from retiring....

    Now both are exponentially better boxers than their peers and are clear evidence that power really means little, skills pay the bills. What does Usyk gain by beating Dubious again but money? What does Fury gain eeking out a very careful points decision against AJ but money?

    The question is where is our next Usyk or Fury coming from? Because I ain't interested otherwise. Watched this sport since 2008 and I don't see a group of talent & pedigree to entertain us like we've had for the last decade and that makes me SAD. Already putting on my rose tinted glasses. I'm sure the older generations here can give some wise hope on this matter.
     
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  2. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    Welcome back miniq
     
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  3. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    I agree with you, they both looked regressed in the rematch, although it made for another solid scrap.

    I don’t want to see Usyk take a loss to any of the people he’d fight now.
     
  4. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    No shame in that. To put Fury down is to put Usyk down and vice versa. Both great. Dedication, commitment and focus won out. The only shame out of these fights was Fury's attitude afterwards.
     
  6. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury goes down as the Riddick Bowe of his era. A waster who blew his legacy. He could have been a great but pissed his legacy up against a wall while in his prime after dethroning Waldo. While he was munching down on several boxes of quality street washed down with litres of whiskey the tide of Usyk was rising. That tide has dragged ‘greedy belly’ kicking and screaming to his watery grave.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Yes but if Fury wasn't mentally touched in the way that blew his career would he be Fury? No. Getting up in round 12 against Wilder will be his highlight and it's a special one. It was the epitome of him as a fighter. "If there's a breathe left in my body I'll keep fighting" He did well to get his Wilder 2 performance and then that was pretty much it. I'd like to say he had something going for him in the 1st Usyk fight but he got tired and that's because he messed around in the years leading up to that as well. Fury I know doesn't get tired after hurting Usyk in round 6 then ghost around only to almost get flattened but he did. Usyk had his moment and his shot and he took it with both hands. Pure dedication to stick through with his gameplan and not back off at that moment.
     
  8. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Cosmic Dancer.I was dancing when I was 12,I was dancing in round 9.
     
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  9. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    Fury should push for a fight with Bakole or Dubois ... just to prove he's the 2nd best or the best, and worthy to have another shot at the belts.
     
  10. Jolly Roger

    Jolly Roger Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk should retire, he has nothing to prove and is visibly slower than he was a few years ago when he beat Joshua the first time.

    Fury on the other hand has a lot to prove, his record is barren and history won’t judge it kindly. If he retires now he likely won’t go down as second best of this era, which is a comedown for someone that thought he was an ATG.
     
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  11. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    Yeh, as much as I dislike the drama-saga-ducking-stalling around his matchmaking/fight negotiations, I respect this part of his game. Great points.
     
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  12. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    When ur being offered sums like 30-50 million for a fight then I can see why folk don't retire!! I mean that's probably around the same figure Uysk made from his total earnings in 90% of his career.

    I believe both will fight on. Fury will fight AJ and Uysk the winner of Dubois/Parker.

    I hope that's their final final hurrah
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Welcome back.

    Usyk has said he is fighting on. Will definitely fight the winner of Dubois-Parker, maybe Zhang-Kabeyel, and I would like to see him work in as soft defense or two--if anyone has earned it, its him, and I think his fans would like to see one where they don't have to hold their breath worrying about a bad decision.

    I think he came in a little worse because they wanted him to bulk up a bit for THE SMASHING MACHINE. As a matter of fact, I expected that.

    As for who is next...time will tell. People are high on Itauma, Temoana, and Jalolov, although I don't believe that Jalolov is ever going to get a pro career off the ground. I like Wardly, Torrez, and Gadzhimagomedov, although they are all flawed. Opetaia and Huni are out there. Dubois is under 30. One of these guys...or someone else...is going to blow up. The good news is that boxing is an international sport, and there is always going to be somebody.
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think if he gets the Joshua fight and wins--which is not guaranteed--he will be fine. Having Klitschko, Wilder and Joshua on the record with Whyte, Wallin, Chisora and Cunningham would make for a good, quality record.

    But a lot of him and Joshua is going to come down to who is more damaged.
     
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  15. gneall

    gneall Active Member Full Member

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    When I compared Fury to Bowe before his Ngannou fight I was laughed off. !!!
     
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