Why didn't Wlad go for the WBC belt after Vitali retired

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  1. Matt0029

    Matt0029 Member Full Member

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    Was Wlad not ranked by the WBC at the type of Vitali vacating the belt?
     
  2. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Doubt it as champs from other orgs are not ranked
     
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  3. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad lost his title to Fury the same year, wilder fought the winner of the fight.

    many years later as fury refused to defend or give an opportunity to wlad to win it back and messed everyone around for years. Wilder fought the winner of the fight.
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    You said unify in an undisputed fight after winning their first title. Plenty of champions have unified after winning their first title, few have gone for the undisputed in the current 4 belt era.
    So where did Indongo get the WBA belt from then? Don´t be a boxrec warrior, as Boxrec no longer recognizes nor tracks the WBA belts.

    Here is Burns being introduced as the WBA champion in an unification fight with Indongo.
    This content is protected
     
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  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Wilder won the WBC belt in January of 2015. He then proceeded to fight absolute handpicked bums for four optional fights. He fought Fury in December of 2018. Get out of here with this bull****. Had Wlad beat Fury, Wilder wasn’t fighting him anytime soon.
     
  6. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The wilder story shows how corrupt and laughable boxing is. Finkel acting like a fighter who just won a championship is some novice who needs development time. Imagine that in ANY other sport, you win a championship and now you don't have to play other top players until you're 'ready'.

    AJ and Wilder were both protected brands.
     
  7. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I checked on boxrec, true they no longer acknowledge wba. But I’ve watched boxing all my life and don’t memorise every fighters accomplishments at every stage….i use boxrec for that. annoying that they’ve removed wba though.

    I did say unify in undisputed, as that’s what your calling wilder out for not doing. as stated it’s rare, and you need to call out every fighter who hasn’t done this then.
     
  8. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    The delays with wlad n fury were because fury ran off with the belts and didn’t fight anybody. not even the “absolute bums” you say wilder did.
    Go check what happened to fury after wlad if you can’t remember, wilder was active, fury wasn’t. But that was wilders fault?

    also, wilder was calling fury out for years, at least since 2013, and he was the one offering the fight, it took fury till 2018 to accept. but is that’s wilders fault.
     
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  9. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    It shows that you only critisize certain fighters. fury won a title the same year as wilder 2015, avoided defended it, then won again several years later and had to be taken to court to have his first defence. he breached contracts because of avoiding certain fights, and those were his big fights. So why have you not criticised him?

    matchmaking is a part of boxing. You don’t win your 1st title and then go for undisputed straight away.
     
  10. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes Wilder was dropped multiple times in sparring vs Wlad, and ever since then hard ducked him whilst fighting lower level opposition and holding the WBC belt hostage.
     
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  11. Soi Six

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    Thank goodness Wladimir Klitschko is gone
     
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  12. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    I don´t have to call out every fighter, nor did I actually call out Wilder.
    But Wilder was in a position to make it happen, yet he chose not to. He did this while calling himself a world champion. So I am going to hold that against him, especially when he never unified with anyone else.
    It´s crazy how much **** Joshua gets for being "protected" while Wilder seemingly gets a free pass for ducking most of the division.
     
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  13. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    From what I see, both get lots of grief for doing what most champs do.
    Unifications for undisputed are rare, especially pre Saudi, there are reasons.
    One of the main ones being the industry like to make an undisputed against 2 well established champions, rather than one well established and one new.

    wilders fault again the industry is like this. But let’s just pick on him.
     
  14. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    What? This is a legitimate criticism of his career. He won the belt and Wladimir wanted to make the fight happen, and it could have happened. But Wilder chose a different path. This is always going to be a blemish on Wilder´s career.

    And 4 belt undisputed fights started happening before the Saudi´s got involved. They just made the heavyweight one happen.
     
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  15. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    It will be a blemish I agree, but it’s not the first or last time someone says “give me a couple fights and we will do it”

    even fury did that after wilder1 in prep for wilder2. He said he’s not ready for the rematch and wants a couple fights first.
    Nothing major.

    We are talking heavyweights, when was the last time we had a 4 weight world champ?
    The Saudis have made it easier, I doubt without them fury would have fought usyk for undisputed but who knows.