Who couldn't take it to the body...?

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  1. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    Jake "The Snake" Rodriguez came to mind. Whitaker was an underrated body puncher...

    Also Gatti, against Ward anyway...

    I guess just about anyone is susceptible though. When I think of ones who could really take it, Ali comes to mind. Seemed you could hit him there all night and it never bothered him. Weird.
     
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  2. Anomalocaris

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    The brutal body punches both Joe and George landed on Ali would have crippled just about every other fighter, let alone an ordinary man.
     
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  3. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Perfectly legal? When did boxing go cart blanche on nut shots or punches to the groin area? :D Just imo, if that was a legal shot we would’ve seen Usyk fold like cheap sooner from same.

    No one likes a good body shot and both AJ and Fury landed a few on Olek and he didn’t go anywhere.

    Otherwise, James J Corbett forever lives in infamy for his body shot KO loss at the hands of Bob Fitz - a blow clearly above the waist line of Jim’s equally infamous thong.
     
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  4. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    ESB did a lot of hard work converting all those old posts that were originally carved into stone tablets into electronic form.

    Back then it would’ve taken days just to carve out and submit a simple “I disagree.” - but boy, it still would’ve looked that much purdier and authoritative.

    Almost as if decreed by God himself. :lol:
     
  5. META5

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    We clearly see it differently.

    The shot lands on the belt line - as Usyk has his trunks higher than the belly button, the belt line or top of the trunks line - below the belly button but certainly above the pubic region/groin. If that punch is low when it hits the belt line then I don't know what to say.

    If anything, the punch probably lands right on the bladder and Dubois is literally punching the top of Usyk's groin protector into him, hence the reaction as if he were punched in the groin. The reaction is very similar - I've definitely had to take a breather or two from a teep to the bladder before, but I know from experience, similar pain reaction, but the contact spot is definitely different.
     
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  6. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I think Usyk trunks sat perfectly and his navel was visible otherwise.

    The punch came up, contacting mostly below the belt line first, then skidded up a bit which also served to lift Usyk’s trunks a bit from where they originally sat.

    I know we’re just examining that one punch but for context, Dubois threw plenty of low blows before and even after the one that was officially deemed as low.

    But hey, like you, there are quite a few who didn’t see it as a low blow. That’s just my opinion and how I saw it - and I personally really can’t see how it could be called anything but a low blow.
     
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  7. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    To be fair, I'm talking about that specific punch. I will concede that he threw a few acorn, pistachio and hazelnut shots and in the context of that, I'm happy to agree with your take, unless I've read it wrongly, that it's a bit of boy crying wolf and referee giving the yellow card for multiple infringements in football, as opposed to that specific tackle being yellow worthy.

    I just happen to think that the specific punch landed clean or clean enough to make me lean towards aggressor than the one taking the punch. If it landed against me in sparring, I would take the knee and blame myself. In the context of lower than belt line shots, I'd make sure that my next knee or roundhouse has my sparring partner heavily bruised top of the thigh and pissing a bit of red of the bladder for the night.
     
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  9. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think so,he took many body shots in his career but he never fell down from such shots,he took em all like a champ!

    Edit:I'm suspicious this may be satire tho..:dunno
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

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    What gave it away?
     
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  11. Boxed Ears

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    I think I proved in the hoosegow that I couldn't "take it to the body" without at least a substantial amount of coercion or promise of snack cakes.
     
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  13. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Ah, no I don’t think Usyk was crying wolf, based on the other low shots.

    That context was simply to illustrate that Dubois was expressly trying to hit low.

    I view the actual single punch, in and of itself, being undoubtedly low and the context suggests that it wasn’t random, isolated or accidental.

    I think Usyk took similarly powerful but legit shots to the body from both AJ and Fury without the same reaction and damaging effect.
     
  14. FThabxinfan

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    He actually gave Ali credits for withstanding these shots,but his next post says Ali cannot take it from these fights.
     
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  15. META5

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    Ah - not Usyk crying wolf but the ref giving the benefit of the doubt due to Dubois' choice of punch placement prior.

    The thing about a body shot is you can take them from bigger punchers and Dubois certainly carries a hefty punch, but it is mostly about the timing and placement. If you catch them just right, they go down - nowt you can do about it.
     
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