Bowe or Usyk?

The problem is is that you are judging Bowe on one fight. All the rest he pretty much underperformed, and that includes Tillery, (should have been DQ loss), Mathis (should have been DQ loss) Tubbs, (either-way fight, Tubbs maybe slightly the better), Coetzee (could have been disqualified due to low blows), Hide (nearly out on his feet by a cruiser), GoltotaX2 (legit DQ wins, but looked like ****), Holyfield (beaten by former cruiser), Holyfield 3 (knocked down)...

He also failed to face Lewis, Tyson, Foreman, Holmes, McCall, Morrison, Mercer, and Moorer. Some of these were not his fault..and some where. Newman was afraid to match him against the best of his era.

As for him having better skills, I am sorry, but when a big man is known for his infighting, it means he doesn't know how to fight, because there is no way he should be infigthing with little guys.

If you want to make the argument that on his best day, Bowe would win, I don't agree with, but fine. I respect that. But in the really real world, you have your best day once. I don't believe you should be judged on just that.

Just my opinions.

 

NO.

 

When the fight neared, Bowe would throw the contract in the garbage bin.

 

Theres no excuse for only really fighting Holyfield out of all the top dogs for this era and that his prime was short. Although, I do disagree about the infighting aspect because for a big guy like Bowe it shows how skilled he is both ways, have to remember Manny Steward said he was more skilled than Lennox.

 

YES!

 

Best Lewis beats best Usyk.

Usyk beats any version of Bowe.

 

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Curious, though...when did he say it?

 

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Around 35-40 ish mins in when he talks about Riddick Bowe.

 

Based on what? Go over Lewis’s resume find me the good mover he fought? The great boxer? Then go over his resume and find me a half way good southpaw he fought, I’ll wait. We can all be fans and just say so and so wins because we like them more. But there is no evidence of Lewis facing movers let alone southpaws.
At least with Bowe we have Larry Donald and Tubbs.
Lewis’s resume often gets praised but he faced a majority of one style opponent easy to hit sluggers.

 

He's a strange one to evaluate really Bowe.. he beat a prime Holyfield twice which was an ATG feat.. yet he got spanked my Golota (who's one of the strangest HWs ever) twice... those wins over Evander are some of the greatest wins ever at HW.. but we can't just judge him on those , it doesn't work like that.. & Bowe fought in an era when there was great competition available to him yet the matchups never happened.. which was a shame because there was some mouth watering clashes to be had.. so overall I'm not as high on Bowe as some..

 

Ok, I heard two things:

1) Stewart said Lennox would have won if the fight would have happened.
2) He was taking about Bowe having a bit more skill at the time. I would agree with that, because that was before Stewart got a hold of Lewis and completed his Jedi training.

In the long run, I think when Lennox learned to use his jab, he was far more the skilled of the two.

 

Lewis fought Biggs who was a good mover infact we can make a comparison between how Bowe, Lewis, fared against him since Biggs fought both of them in back to back fights.

Biggs gave Bowe issues and even wobbled him quite badly in the 3rd round until Bowe finally caught up to him in the 8th round.

Lewis on the other dispatched Biggs with ease in 3 rounds.

 

Tyrel Biggs was never the same after Tyson ruined him. If you’re using a washed up Biggs coming off a KO loss as the indicator Lewis fought movers it’s just more evidence he didn’t fight any of note.

 

I know he wasn't which makes Bowe struggling against that version of Biggs considerably worse.