Does anyone actually want Usyk vs. Dubois 2?

For the periods when he wasn’t punching Bowe in the nuts he does…..

 

Yup

 

I mean ... who else?

No need for AJ or Fury or Wilder

Beat Hunter in CW

It's time to start clearing out the kids, but, Wardley? He's just not earned it man, he's a baby.

Zhang? Sure, just because he hasn't done it to Zhang yet that makes that a better fight? Pretty sure Danny's a spot faster than Zhang, has better stamina, and youth.

He can do a uni with Pulev but that's not a better fight either.

Bakole? Kabayel? Maybe, but like Wardley that's a bit early for those dudes.


Usyk has no challengers. All these challengers are a farce. There's not really any name that can be brought to the table that should have anyone question if Usyk can wear them down. ... ... Maybe Parker but honestly beating two old bruisers who basically just stand there to be hit isn't much gauge for Usyk.

IMO, Usyk should have fun. Go take BW because you can. See if you can get a catchweight with Canelo or Beterbiev or some such.

Retire a belt just to pick it back up and technically be a x2 champion that never lost ... ... ... I don't hate that. I like it more than him going to CW or BW or doing a catch with a name from the lighter weights. I love Beter, 0 chance in hell he can beat Usyk.

Danny doesn't have much chance, but all things considered, I think he's the best chance to pull the upset.

The dude has just dominated on that Marciano level and like Marciano he hasn't much to do so he'll go fight the lessers. Today a world fighting a regional is unheard of but also today we have regular for that. I promise Rock wouldn't have fought Cockell if there was a HW worth fighting left. Usyk's there man. No one left in boxing.

 

I don't want to see it again. It's not like the first time they fought it was close. Usyk dominated him. Only reason people still talk about that fight is because of the controversy around the punch that put Usyk on his backside. Everyone and there mother knows it was a low blow now.

Saying that it would be a easy way to earn some money so if the fight does happen I'm for sure going all out on the Usyk win.

 

Yeah but Golota was dominating Bowe even before the low blows it was clear at that point in their careers Golota was the superior fighter. In the 16 rounds Bowe fought vs Golota he won about 3 without the low blow point deductions.

Dubois on the other hand got pretty much dominated by Usyk and quit after a jab and at most Dubois won 1 round if that.

I'd rather see a new opponent a new stylistic challenge for Usyk rather than rematching another British fighter for the 3rd time who he already beat comprehensively.

 

No one is more deserving than Dubois.

 

If he beats Parker and that's a big if because i make that close to a 50/50 match up.

But I am bit tired of seeing rematches honestly so I'm kinda hoping Parker wins I want to see a new fresh contender face Usyk.

 

The only people that want the rematch are the ones still complaining about the "low blow" controversy but keep ignoring the fact that the fight itself was one sided and Dubois folded after a jab. Unless Dubois beats Parker I honestly don't think he's more deserving of a shot against Usyk over anyone else. The results would certainly not be anymore different should they fight again and I think Usyk will most likely batter Dubois even worse.

 

But that fight is happening next isn't it. Dubois v Parker. So the winner of that is easily the best fight for Usyk to make.

Next best is winner of Kabayel v Zhang.

 

Nah the people who want the fight are the people who want to see Usyk fighting the best.

 

Which he's been doing his whole career. A Dubois rematch is only necessary if he beats Parker. But I don't blame anyone for not being overexcited to see another fight between the two given the one sided nature of their first fight. At least Parker is a different fighter that Usyk hasn't faced yet.

 

Yes and Parker would be the best if he beats Dubois which I'd rather see as Parker is a new opponent who we don't know how well Usyk matches up with hence its more of an intriguing match up.

 

I wouldn't mind

 

I'm 50/50 on it, there really is not an obvious better choice

Assuming Dubois beats Parker w/o controversy

Reasons for: Dubois would have the best run of any heavyweight especially if he stops Parker. He would be IBF champ, a lucrative opponent in SA or UK, and the fight can be sold w/ the controversy of the first fight (not weighing in on the blow) but there is buzz and dubois has looked great since the loss. Also, despite Dubois being well behind on the cards and stopped I felt he performed well and brings attributes to the fight that can make him interesting. Also, Usyk is on his way out and Dubois is a young star where a victory could build a next generation champion rather than a retirement scenario.

Reasons against: Usyk is a clear favorite, sure I felt Dubois did good and has improved and is worthy but I still think on top of all of that, Usyk is still the clear favorite here. Do I want to see a "maybe he does better the second time" fight, not really. I am not that enthusiastic about the fight but it sort of is a who is out there?

If not Dubois?

Kabayel and Zhang are tied up but certainly the winner is very deserving
Bakole is high in the WBA and beat Anderson but is that really enough to be next?
WBC has Okolie 4, no real interest from me
WBC has Hunni and Itauma in the top 10 neither are ready
Ajagba is still rated highly, no one wants to see that
Pulev, no way
Fury III no thanks

So w/ that said I would have to favor Dubois as next in line with Kabayel-Zhang as next best. However, if Parker beats Dubois which is very possible, I think his streak of Wilder-Zhang-Dubois is the trump card and he should be next. Honestly that is probably the best result as to avoid rematches.