Would Haye of beaten Fury in 2013

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  1. Matt0029

    Matt0029 Member Full Member

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    If there fight happened In 2013 would Haye of beaten Fury, and stopped or definitely delayed Furys route to the top..
     
  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    No.

    Also, lol.

    Hayes BEST win at heavyweight was an MD of Valuev. Other than that he faced John Ruiz in what would be Ruiz very last fight and a Chisora that had lost three of his last four.

    David Haye was an explosive counter puncher at Cruiserweight who relied on his speed, reflexes and power to carry him through. With Fury, Haye's size and skill set wouldn't have. Instead we would have seen Fury feinting the over reactive Haye out of position and slamming rights and uppercuts into him. Even a 2013 Fury.

    Assuming Haye didn't over train as he was known to. Also assuming he didn't break, stub or injure his toe.
     
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  3. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury from 2013 wasn't the same Fury that beat Klitschko. He wasn't as good at that point. Fury on the back foot wins on points against Haye. Fury trying to trade shots gets starched.

    Haye was a good CW he didn't really belong at HW, although he did win a belt.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. He just lacked the Chinny chin chin to be very good at heavy. And he was already starting to fall apart.
     
  5. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Haye was never any good, and had a gash HW legacy. He'd have got starched by Fury, and Joshua.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Fury was not very well perceived back then. Haye had lost to Wlad but he destroyed Chisora.

    The power of hindsight shows Fury is many levels above Haye.

    But at that time, Have was rightly a favourite and given the Cunningham fight I think had they fought Haye beats him.

    By 2014 Fury is a massive favourite though.
     
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  7. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    But then Fury back then lacked the snap and power to make that a major problem.

    Haye, via Valuev, had showed he could hold his own with a much bigger man... Fury, via Cunningham, had showed potential vulnerability against a smaller one.
    Neither of these things make it advantage Haye automatically, but they might argue for the big man advantage being less than it might usually be.

    It wouldn't have surprised me at all if Fury took got knocked down once or twice and lost a decision... A KO either way I'm not sure would've been very likely.
     
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  8. Cafe

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    I think so, I honestly think prime Haye was underrated and Wlad had a very mediocre performance against him.
     
  9. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t think so. I don’t Haye that high at all to be honest. I always thought Fury would not only win but dominate Haye.
     
  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Reason Haye ducked twice

    Haye's body was on the way out even before he fought Wlad. He knew to beat Fury he needed 100% and he couldn't achieve it...then fought Chisora and got through it but his body could have failed in that fight also at any point. Both roided to the gills. Then conned the dumb British public with his Bellew fights even though he knew he was WELL past it.

    Haye was an explosive fighter and a cruiserweight his body didn't like his bulk up to heavyweight. Tore his shoulders apart.

    Fury would have boxed Haye's face off. He was just coming into his peak boxing slick form which he showcased against Hammer in 2014. Haye would have been a sitting duck with nothing more than a right hand which he never could have landed. Haye saw what Fury did with Cunningham and Chisora and didn't want any of it.

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    People can say what they want about Fury but when he's talking serious, he talks serious which is how he intimidated all of his opponents. Usyk was different he knew he couldn't intimidate him. Antics were just for show and a little frustration because he can beat him but missed his opportunity really.
     
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  11. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At the time i thought haye without too many problems but in hindsight....fury would have probably taken it.

    I still say haye had the tools. He could hit also pretty good at setting traps and walking people into something.

    Dont think you could write either of them off. But would favour fury to get haye working too hard and drown him down the straight in hindsight.
     
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  12. elrond_buggard

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    It was an interesting crossroads for Fury, as he came to his peak quite suddenly shortly after that. Just look at how easily he dismantled Chisora in 2014 compared to their first fight. Looked untouchable basically from 2014 until his meltdown after beating Wlad.

    But before that, Fury looked a bit clumsy and vulnerable. Cunningham was old, past it, and not a big hitter by any means but gave Fury a lot of trouble, while Haye was extremely explosive. Obviously Usyk is another level, but Fury always looked vulnerable against fast cruiserweights, and Haye was as hard-hitting and explosive as they come.

    Tough call to make. I think it'd have been a close fight, with Haye hurting Fury multiple times but Fury draining Haye down the stretch. I see a close, controversial decision one way or the other.
     
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  14. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    I think 2013 Fury would win a back and forth ugly fight. Both guys would probably have to climb up from the canvas. Probably goes to a decision and Fury would win a close one on points.

    The Fury of the Wilder fights KO’s haye.
     
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  15. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I see it back and forth, hate scoring a couple knockdowns but not finishing the job.

    I doubt fury would drop haye, he’s only really had that power in his wilder 2 & 3 fights. That heavy hitter fury hasn’t existed otherwise.