Yeah but not all maybe pre war but the ones from 50s and 60s were much more skilled, including Moore, Patterson, Walcott etc were much more skilled than Usyk. I think even old Joe Louis was faster and more skilled than Usyk. They were not past their best but they were not in their primes, Holyfield was also small hw but dominated HWs even past his best. Marciano would not have problem with big hitable guys like Fury and Joshua, he had problem with smaller fast and slick boxers but stiff big guys like Fury and Joshua would not be problem for him. Usyk never faced any great fighter or even a good puncher to say his chin was proven, Tyson or Shavers were 215 but would kill Usyk 6ft 5 or not. Marciano was knocked down by two slickest boxers in boxing history unlike Joshua and Fury who were stiff and hitable. Usyk would be knocked and dropped very often in 70s or 90s if he fought then. Not even close, not even on picture but to compare their records is even more crazy.
The right blend of style and attributes can cause any guy an issue. It’s happened all throughout the history of the sport. Usyk would obviously have been heavily favoured. But if he couldn’t get him out of there, he’d have had a busy night. Just like a Usyk vs Frazier/Tyson fight, which have recently been discussed.
You are completely obsessed by size. 1. Despite his huge size, Fury isn’t a hard puncher. 2. AJ never had the opportunity to land any flush, power shots on Usyk. Yet your entire belief system is: “If he could beat 2 SHW’s, then there’s no way that anybody smaller than him could ever cause him issues” You simply can’t conceive it. Marciano did get put down by LHW’s. Usyk didn’t get put down by 2 SHW’s. Therefore, he must have a better chin? Things are never that simple in boxing. There’s lots of factors to look at.
You are actually delusional Usyk would make mincemeat out of all of those and make it look easy none of them are on Usyk level. You really take worshiping old school fighters to a new level its actually insane. Marciano never fought big heavyweights you idiot so how can you say he had no problem with them if a guy is getting hurt by small guys who aren't even big punchers then large heavyweights who hit harder are going to give him even more trouble especially guys who are as technical as the ones who hurt him man talking to you actually hurts you sounds like you honestly can't logically anyaslsi fights at all besides repeating old good new bad. LOL right because none of the superheavyweights Usyk fought were hard punchers........ Man can anyone be more wrong then you He was knocked down by light heavyweights Usyk has taken hits from Superheavyweights and been fine objectively speaking Usyk has a much better chin then Marciano but evidently basic logic is hard for someone like you. And also Usyk would dominate any era he fought in especially one where he's way bigger then everyone in it while being way more skilled.
What difference does it make? You are completely writing him off based upon his size. Yet fighters of a similar size and attributes found huge success.
He's not those fighters I evaluate fighters based on what they actually did not what they hypothetically can do
Do your research before opening your mouth...your showing your ignorance regarding your knowledge of boxing history! Jesus...this sounds like the old "General Boxing" page...
The irony is this post is simply staggering. How have you got the audacity to mock his comments, before then signing off with: “Usyk would dominate any era that he fought in” WTF is that?? What on earth is this line of thinking?? Based on what?? Here’s another example of your lack of knowledge: “If smaller fighters who weren’t big punchers could hurt Marciano, then bigger, harder hitting fighters would have given him even more trouble” That is just an ignorant assumption, without taking into account a number of factors, most notably, how they’d have matched up on the night stylistically. With that logic, Foreman, Shavers and Norton, should all easily have hurt and beaten Ali, on the grounds that Ali was troubled and dropped by Cooper and Jones” Yet boxing is not that simple. Simply because of the styles. Your ignorance is very offensive. Everything is always very simple to you. It’s really mind boggling. Especially as we have real examples to look at. You know that Breidis gave Usyk a harder fight, than what 2 SHW’s did. Now how on earth could such a thing have happened?? A question which I could have answered when I was literally 10 years old.
Marciano did fight this guy Johnny Shkor. I read that he was 220 lbs when he did fight Marciano. Ofcourse he was just a Journeyman. But Marciano wasn’t by default too small to beat bigger Heavyweights. https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/12141
How am I wrong maybe give me an actual argument instead of just feigning outrage at an objectively true statement. Oh wait you can't because you know I'm right but that would destroy all the narrative you keep regurgitating.
That’s not logical at all. Not unless you were doing a direct comparison between where he took huge, flush bombs off of each fighter. Surely you can see that. Again, he never took any flush, power shots off of AJ, simply because he outboxed AJ, where AJ was never given the opportunity to land any, huge flush shots. Now he deserves huge credit for those wins. However, that doesn’t mean people could say things such as: “Usyk’s chin is simply incredible, as 2 SHW’s couldn’t knock him out” This is your ignorance again showing through. Black and white comparisons.