Sonny Liston vs Riddick Bowe primes

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Devon, Jan 5, 2025.


Who wins?

  1. Liston KO/TKO

    55.9%
  2. Liston PTS

    8.8%
  3. Bowe KO/TKO

    29.4%
  4. Bowe PTS

    5.9%
  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The tape shows Listion doing nothing that Bowe could not do.

    Bowe has every advantage over Liston and has better wins on his resume.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfield has 0 relevance to a puncher like Liston Bowe also had issues dealing with a good jab and Liston has an ATG jab.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I’m thinking Liston but it would probably be a tough fight
     
  4. nyterpfan

    nyterpfan Active Member Full Member

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    It's pretty obvious dinovelvet has no love for Sonny Liston ROTFLMAO!!
     
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  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Liston was befuddled by Alis jab.
    Evander was harder to land on than liston yet Bowe still got the shots on target. If he could land on an elite guy like evander then he will land more on Liston.
    How guy dealt with the best they fought is the most relevant and reliable criteria when analysing h2h fantasy matchups.
    Facts
    Liston struggled far more from a good jab than Bowe.
    Liston crapped out his biggest tests.
    A punch from a man the size of Bowe will badly rearrange the facial structure and rupture the viscera of somebody as light as Liston.
    Sonny would never be fit to fight again after trading fists with bowe
     
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  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You have to be joking. Bowe couldn't even keep his S together against the great Elijah Tillery. He couldn't even beat featherfisted Pierre Coetzer on the level and had to low blow him into submission. Andrew Golota, the weakest mental case in the sport's history, tore him up.

    Liston takes Bowe into deep waters and drowns him.
     
  7. BCS8

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    JFC I'm agreeing with Dino and disagreeing with Seamus. Dafuq is going on. Did Putin drop the nukes already? Maybe the emp is interfering with the nanites from the covid vax.
     
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  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Liston beats the scraps of Bowe who fought golota.. does that make you happy?
    How about the soups cans who lostion lost to past prime?

    Coazter didn't win a single round from Bowe and took a career shortening beating.
    Ur arguments are weak sauce. It's the same as someone referencing purity to bring down Ur guy Klitschko.
    Facts are liston is there to be uppercutted into oblivion. He had no defense in close.
    Don't matter about Bowe. He towered over him
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Let me run this through google translate and I'll get back to you.

    Looks like he did win some rounds...
    He was behind 55-58 on two cards and 56-57 on the third. He obviously was competitive. And Lane looked the other way as a completely frustrated Bowe resorted to repeated low blows to take the wind out of the Boer's sails. Pathetic.

    Bowe literally threw his belt into garbage can he was so afraid of having to defend against a real puncher with a real jab.
     
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  10. dinovelvet

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    The Boers face was mulched into red paste. Does that happen from low blows. How about time stamp all the low blows. You wont produce more then two which were accidental and a result of changing attack to the body due to the iron chin of the African.

    Ur arguments here are biased and charged by fanboyism. Proof , u'd pick fragile , no inside skill , can't even throw a hook to the body W.Klitscho over Liston. When obviously Bowe is more equipped to handle Liston with his iron chin and supreme inside fighting skills

    You even make a big song and dance over low blows against Coetzer then completely ignore the 3 piece combos Golota threw at Bowes nutsack.
    Im trying to deal in reality here , not fanboy based biases and delusions.

    Facts are Liston wasn't even competitive with a green Ali who had just lost to Doug Jones. Bowe sends that 200 pound lumbering forward trudger into orbit
     
  11. Seamus

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    Every subject for you is connected by two degrees of separation to ATG Wlad Klitschko, isn't it? There are therapists for that sort of unhealthy obsession.

    And get your facts straight, Liston was 210-220 in his prime, not 200. And certainly didn't sport the ***** tits that Bowe juggled about the ring.
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Im highlighting how people pick who they want to win not who they think would win. You don't think WK would beat Liston? What can he do that Bowe can't. Jump all over his spinal column?

    If you care so much about low blows why don't you take into account the damage Golotas lows had on Bowe? You think someone can shake off repeated combos to the gonads like its nothing? Those ball shots were a way for Golota to escape the contest.
    Non-Futch Bowe who had abandoned his discipline made Golota disqualify himself twice. There was no quitting in Bowe
    Liston can't take the pressure. Bowe can.
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Liston was smaller, but he could have very well been stronger and harder hitting than Bowe. Problem is, Liston was never tested against a super heavyweight of Bowe's caliber. Liston was used to being the big man in the ring. On the other hand, Bowe took too many punches to land his own and Bowe was rocked by Herbie Hide, who was no Liston but also no mickey mouse puncher. I have to ponder this one.
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Liston was more like 210-215 in his prime. He was 212 vs Williams and 211 vs Folley
     
  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    Bowe wasn't in his late 30s when he fought Holyfield like Liston was against Ali plus Ali had the best movement of all time at Heavyweight. Holyfield on the other hand stood right in front of Bowe and trade punches with him and he didn't have the type of concussive power that Liston had.

    Bowe got beaten to a pulp by Golota and couldn't deal with his jab and a past it Tubbs befuddled him.
     
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