Myth: Roberto Duran has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

yes, no idea why i wrote 175.

if duran retired after his last lw fight he would be top 100 very easy.

then he won one of the best vicrories in boxing history and had a great career that would be respected regardless of what he did at lw and below..

 

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Possibly, if so, there is no reason to suspect he didn't do the same when weighing 7lbs heavier on fight night vs Trout 5-months earlier.

Agreed on your 2nd point.

 

Ain't that just the same as Duran...vs Davey Moore?

Moore was a rising star and was just a champion in a few fights, he's offensively very good and complete bt just lacks defense, Duran whopped him so bad he never became the same star again.

 

Fair enough, though if he was dehydrating to make 165lbs a few hours before the fight and/or eating enough food within a few hours of the fight that he put on multiple lbs between that rehydration weigh in and the fight, it would put him at disadvantage.

All conjecture, of course, all we know for sure is that Canelo weighed 172lbs in an unofficial weigh in on the night of the fight vs Trout and then 5-months later, during a period when the young man will have been naturally filling out and gaining weight, he weighed 165lbs in an unofficial weigh in on the night of the Mayweather fight.

We also know that Mayweather was the "A side" and that Mayweather's team didn't insist on a 152lbs catchweight for no reason. If they included a rehydration clause, at 165lbs or otherwise, they wouldn't have done so for no reason, either.

Imo, it's likey factors such as these, allied with Canelo being pre peak, that explain why Mayweather was more dominant over Canelo than he was over a lesser and smaller fighter in Maidana, and far more dominant than he was over a perhaps slightly better, but inactive, past peak and smaller ODLH.

A fine win that significantly enhances Floyd's brilliant resume, but it's not like he beat the peak, non drained Canelo that went on to win titles at MW to LHW. Not by a long shot, imo.

 

I appreciate that you're only trolling, but it is interesting it takes baseless, albeit tongue in cheek, speculation such as that to infer Canelo wasn't drained vs Mayweather.

Canelo visibly and clearly had no excess fat in the ring vs Trout. Given his fight night weights were already comparable to your typical world class MW, he was likely weakened vs Ttout, just not to the same extent as he was Mayweather.

Again, speculation aside what we know for certain, is that on fight night a 22 year old Canelo was 7lbs lighter vs Trout than he was 5-months later vs Mayweather and that despite severe criticism, his team negotiated his next 5 x fights not at 154lbs, but at 155lbs. If that 1lbs extra, 3 lbs relative to the Mayweather fight, made no difference, why endure the criticism it entailed?

 

It's likely Canelo's ideal fight night weight already exceeded the 171lbs and 172lbs he was vs Lara and Trout respectively, that's just as high and close as he could get to his ideal weight having had to make 155lbs and 154lbs, respectively, the day before.

So, as you say, it is interesting that in the only fight that was sufficiently high in magnitude that Canelo was the "B side", he, for some mysterious reason, only rehydrated to 165lbs.