Rocky Marciano against Ali's opponents

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  1. PolishAssasin

    PolishAssasin Member Full Member

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    George Foreman 1974
    Sonny Liston 1964
    Joe Frazier 1971
    Ken Norton 1973
    Jerry Quarry 1972
    Larry Holmes 1980
    Henry Cooper 1963
    Oscar Bonavena 1970

    Is Rocky 57-0?
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beats Quarry, Bonavena, Norton, loses to the rest.
     
  3. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pretty much what Dynamic said though Frazier fight would be interesting and I would say its 50/50 really comes down to who falters first and it could be either guy both are tough and could fight at an insane pace but I feel like Frazier would probably outlast Marcanio. Foreman and Liston would be pretty much impossible for Marciano to beat.
     
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  4. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're dreaming son...(By The way...you spelled "Marciano" wrong!)
     
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  5. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    About? (mb I'm bad at spelling)
     
  6. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    He is now 53-4.
     
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  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman by KO 1
    Liston by KO 2
    Frazier by TKO 13
    Marciano TKO's Norton in 12
    Marciano TKO's Quarry in 10
    Holmes by TKO in 10
    Marciano KO's Cooper in 7
    Marciano by UD over Bonavena

    4 wins,,,at most, and I'm not confident he runs the table on Norton, Quarry and Bonavena
     
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  8. janwalshs

    janwalshs Active Member Full Member

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    I think he stops Quarry and Cooper, outworks Oscar for a decision and loses to the rest.
     
  9. Boxerboxer222

    Boxerboxer222 New Member Full Member

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    Loses to Liston and Foreman, I give him a slight edge over Frazier due to having better two fisted power. he beats the rest.
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Beats Bonavena, Cooper, Quarry and perhaps Norton. I slightly favor Frazier over him. I favor Holmes. Foreman definitely. Liston definitely, although since Liston is more measured as compared to Foreman, he would leave more of a window of opportunity for Marciano to perhaps squeeze through.
     
  11. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I count 4 or 5 Ls. You reckon a 38 year old Rocky is gong to whup a prime Holmes or a 32 year old Rocky beating a prime Foreman.
     
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  12. PolishAssasin

    PolishAssasin Member Full Member

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    Actually, I see it like this:

    Foreman (Foreman by KO in 2)
    Liston (Liston by KO in 4)
    Norton (Marciano by TKO in 13)
    Frazier (Frazier by late TKO or UD)
    Holmes 60/40 (for Holmes, maybe UD)
    Bonavena (Marciano by UD over 15)
    Quarry (Marciano by TKO in 8)
    Cooper (Marciano by KO in 6)

    53-4

    As a bonus, we could add Shavers and Lyle, which would make the record 55-4 (I believe Marciano stops both).
     
  13. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Henry Cooper 1963
    Sonny Liston 1964
    Oscar Bonavena 1970
    Joe Frazier 1971
    Jerry Quarry 1972
    Ken Norton 1973
    George Foreman 1973
    Larry Holmes 1980

    This is a 18 year span (counting 1963 as year one). Marciano took on upper echelon heavies from 1951 to 1955. One might grant that he could have hit big time earlier, that WWII somewhat deferred his having to decide on boxing rather than baseball; and that Marciano was still a formidable fighter at the time of his retirement. But stretching Rocky's career over Ali's actual span in meeting these fighters is very, very speculative, even without some of Ali's challenging fights of 1974-1977. [Ali himself met Freman in 1974, but if you want to help Marciano a bit by making his bout with George happen in '73, thats OK].
     
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  14. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For your analogy to be apt he's 38 years old when he faces Holmes and coming out of a six year retirement with no tune ups. He's 35 years and coming out of a three year retirement to fight Earnie and he's 33 when he's fighting Ron.
     
  15. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's only fair Rocky be the same age and stage in his career as Ali was when he faces them.
     
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