Unpopular opinion - Lomachenko is the most overrated boxer in the past decade

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  1. Bigplatts

    Bigplatts New Member Full Member

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    No that's Crawford.
     
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  2. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder has more world title fights, thats not much of a metric, and neither is your 'convincing loss' either. The guy is 18-3, and lost to guys who are not special yet was hailed as arguably an ATG and the best fighter in the world, that is how he is overrated, and it should not be hard to understand. Oh and he is ducking Tank.

    Ps. What is his best win again? How many hall of famers has he beaten?
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    You just an *******!
     
  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder doesn't have 15 world title wins he has 10 and he certainly doesn't have anywhere near the amount of wins vs top 10 ranked fighters he only beat 2 ranked fighters. Plus Loma won those 15 world title fights over 3 different weightclasses so I'm not seeing how you're making a point with this comparison.

    "18-3" argument is irrelevant when 18 out of those 21 fights have been world championship fights its not like Loma was a prospect padding his record he was fighting world class fighters starting from his 2nd professional fight.

    15-3 record in world championship fights is a very good one especially since most people think his record should be 17-1 with the majority believing he won the Haney fight and the Salido fight being a farce.

    You could say he didn't quite fulfill his full potential but I don't think he's overrated his skills are up there with the best in the modern era he just didn't quite get the luck in some of his fights. Imagine if Loma got the benefit of the doubt in every close fight like Canelo for example.

    I only consider the Lopez loss as legit.
     
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  5. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    He has not beaten any elite fighters, no p4p or HOF fighters, just a bunch of B level opponents, and he lost 3 fights. You can't say his record is irrelevant that is how we judge fighters on their performance.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do some research.

    Rigondeaux was ranked in the top 10 P4P when Lomachenko beat him yes he moved up weightclasses but he was still a top 10 P4P fighter.

    Linares was ranked as the best Lightweight in the world when Lomachenko beat him.

    Walters had dominated and stopped the likes of Donaire.

    Gary Russell Jr was a top 3 Featherweight for over 5 years.

    Yes we judge fighters on their performances and Lomachenko was a standout fighter between 2015-2019. Yes he's had some losses 2 being highly controversial so let's have the context regarding that and the fact that 18 of his 21 professional fights have been world title fights.

    A fight that the majority scored for Lomachenko and consider it to be highly controversial but i guess you think 116-112 is a reasonable scorecard aswell as scoring round 10 for Haney.

    Have you watched the fight ? let's see your scorecard here's mine.

    1 Loma
    2 Haney
    3 Loma
    4 Haney
    5 Loma
    6 Haney
    7 Loma
    8 Loma
    9 Haney
    10 Loma
    11 Loma
    12 Haney

    115-113 Lomachenko

    I don't see any reasonable case for Haney winning 7 rounds let alone 8.
     
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  7. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    So his best win was against a 37 year old moving up 2 divisions. Awesome.

    The problem is any time Loma loses a close fight its 'controversial' and excuses. I don't buy that. Guess what he also has a controversial win vs Ortiz who i think clearly beat him but of course because he was a nobody sparring partner that is overlooked.

    The Haney fight was a classic boxing close fight with most of the rounds being swing rounds. If you find it impossible to give Haney the win its because you are biased. I dislike Haney but I thought he won. Loma was trying to steal rounds as always and did not do enough to clearly win the fight at all. Its laughable that anyone would call this a robbery.
     
  8. Cafe

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    Who's the elite p4p/hof fighter that he was supposed to fight but didn't that would massively elevate his resume? Like the only dude that was on his timeline of that level that I can think of is Mikey.
     
  9. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    he struggled tho.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Obviously
     
  11. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury

    They told me he's 300 pounds and 7 foot and move like Ali

    They told me he was the GOAT

    In the end the kids who called him a fat pikey ***** were most correct. **** all nothing special about Fury's career
     
  12. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only flaw is Rigondeaux
    Even loma doesn't take too much from the win, beating the smaller, older fighter

    It is similar with Floyd outclassing JMM. Not many give him props for completely outclassing Juan, because he was much bigger and came in heavy. He landed more than 50 shots also
     
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  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yes, he was always overrated as a pro. great amateur, but plenty other gold medalists could have made a career out of beating amateurs too. his fans used to melt every time i said mikey would beat the crap out of loma. the way mikey made salido look completely out of his class, while lomas fans blamed low blows for salido giving him that work, as if only low blows connected. loma was beaten by the simple move of pivoting with him when he tried those side angles. a move i always pointed to mikey being a master at doing. teo pivoted with him and loma had no answer.
     
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  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I wish Loma had fought Mikey because I am quite clear what Mikey would have done to him at Lightweight.
     
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  15. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am glad I am not the only one to think Mikey would batter him

    I hope tank gets a chance. Definitely a knock out imo