Peak Joe Calzaghe Versus Peak RJJ and B-Hop

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  1. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wins? Please discuss. Thank you.
     
  2. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    I don't see Calzaghe winning.
     
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  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He beats B-Hop, prime B-Hop at middleweight beat 2 blown up welterweights in Trinidad and De La Hoya and a green Glen Johnson, who else?
    Jones is tougher, but he can certainly have success.
     
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  4. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has a chance against both.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    Still zaggers for me.
     
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I have to have Jones and Hopkins. While it should be noted that Calzaghe wasn’t prime either in his meetings with those men, I think it’s fair to say that they were significantly more removed from their respective pinnacles than he was.
     
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  8. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Joe might have success with Hopkins still due to his output, but who was peak Calzaghe anyway? Let's assume this is the same Calzaghe(2006) as the one who beat Jeff Lacy, the Hopkins(2002) who just beat Carl Daniels and the Roy Jones(1995) who just beat Vinnie Paz.

    Let's just take out the 1995 version of Roy Jones since I can't see any fighter in history besting him at 168 let alone Joe Calzaghe and Hopkins. Calzaghe admitted himself that he didn't want anything to do with a prime Roy in his prime and for good reason. His attributes are maxed at this weight and time period, better speed, power, reflexes, punch arsenal.

    So then it boils down to Joe Calzaghe vs Bernard Hopkins again, this time younger versions of themselves at 168 instead of 175. To be honest, if you really studied their original fight closely, nothing really happened besides Calzaghe throwing a couple slaps and karate chops to win him some rounds because he couldn't land anything effective vs that old man version of Hopkins. Every time Calzaghe would throw a proper punch, Hopkins would immediately counter and win the exchanges. Calzaghe would then commit to throwing his signature slaps which were ineffective and mostly or partially blocked. A poster here a while ago went into great detail explaining that fight and most importantly Calzaghe's punching technique in general. It begged the question, should Calzaghe's karate chops and slaps be considered legal scoring blows?

    That being said, these two would always have close fights with each other but if we're talking prime versions then I still feel Hopkins would take the edge, he'd have more stamina this time around and would land the more significant blows. I thought he won their original fight, no way do I think Calzaghe would win in their respective primes.
     
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  9. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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  10. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    Calzaghe loses both. He is the King of good timing.
     
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  11. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Lies, Slappy Joe only loses fights in bitter butthurt fanboy fantasies.
     
  12. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Loses to both and badly to Jones Jr.
     
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  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe loses a decision to both. b hop while still retaining a lot of his skill was like 43 when they fought and Jones was pushing 40 and shot.
     
  14. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe loses to both of them
     
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  15. themaster458

    themaster458 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would lose to Jones Hopkins is 50/50 i could see either guy winning but would be a close fight either way kinda like their actual fight