Fury would still beat prime Muhammad Ali and Lennox Lewis, Usyk is just the goat

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  1. humbug

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    Prime for Prime, Head to Head, whether fans think Fury’s victory over Klitschko was a magician’s genius or a pugilists victory, a win’s a win.

    I can’t see anyone beating that 6 foot 9 phenom version of Fury.
     
  2. Dynamicpuncher

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    You are joking right ? neither man landed more than 100 punches and both landed less than 50 power punches. It was an awful fight arguably the least aggression shown ever for 2 Heavyweights in a major Heavyweight title fight.

    A good win in context but hardly a standout performance regarding the eye test that makes Fury a "phenom" behave.
     
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    A good win in context?

    He shat on Klitschko’s record and showed how hit and not getting hit unfolds when it matters.
     
  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wladimir didn't throw a power punch for 6 rounds and only threw just over 200 punches in the fight with is about 20 punches thrown a round which is abysmal.

    Yeah Fury showed good defence but his opponent was also unwilling to let his hands go i've seen more aggression in a sparring session.

    Hence you calling Fury a "phenom" for edging out an aging champion in one of the worst Heavyweight title fights in history is a bit comical to say the least.
     
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  5. humbug

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    “Yeah because Wladimir didn't throw a power punch for 6 rounds and only threw just over 200 punches in the fight with is about 20 punches thrown a round which is abysmal.”

    You boys are maniacs and not in a good, youthful and logical ‘I’m rising’ way.

    Why do you think Wlad did jack ****? For the fun of it? Wlad would of knocked Fury’s head off if he had the chance.

    Fury made a mockery of what Wlad was at that specific fight.
     
  6. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury is more like 6'7 anyway
     
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    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    “Hit and not get hit” is amateur boxing.
    “Hurt and not get hurt” is pro boxing
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    You can't seriously tell me Wladimir did all he could in that fight throwing 20 punches a round come off it.

    Name me one fight in history in a major Heavyweight title fight that an established champion averaged 20 punches a round ?

    You don't have to overrate what we all witnessed yes it was a good win for Fury but making out that terrible fight infact one of the worst Heavyweight title fights in history makes Fury an unbeatable demigod is as i said absolutely comical.

    You might aswell say Sanders was unbeatable for the Wladimir fight then he beat a younger version of Wladimir and crushed him in 2 rounds.
     
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    “Name me one fight in history in a major Heavyweight title fight that an established champion averaged 20 punches a round ?”

    That’s the point I’m trying to make.

    Fury completely nullified Klitschko, Klitschko, a long reigning champion.

    Regardless, current-Fury lost that Usyk 2 match.
     
  10. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    He did nullify him, but one issue I think some have is he didn’t do much with it.
    Made him miss, but didn’t make him pay.
     
  11. ruffryders

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    I often think, the way fury dethroned wlad in Düsseldorf etc hype is exaggerated as though fury beat an undefeated atg killer at the peak of his career. Like it was a Tyson-Douglas conquering.
    Wlad been beat before so is Corrie a legend?
     
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  12. humbug

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    There’s a difference between being toyed with compared to a points decision and being tko’d.
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

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    I just don't see it as impressively as you do it's a good win no doubt but you're making it out like it was some special performance that makes the Fury that night unbeatable and I don't understand why you get that impression quite honestly.

    Fury edged an aging champion in a very dull fight where neither man did a whole lot it's not like like Ali knocking out a prime Foreman or Douglas beating up and dominating Tyson or Foreman dominating and destroying Frazier in just 2 rounds.
     
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  14. humbug

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    Two ******’s at once, I forgot to carry my douchebag.
     
  15. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No I think you forgot about common sense though but I'm done debating with someone that thinks edging an aging champion with less than 100 punches landed is some memorising performance that makes Fury unbeatable.

    I don't even have to say anything your comment speaks for itself how ridiculous your logic is Sanders must be the GOAT then.

    Good day to you.
     
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