What is Deontay Wilder's legacy?

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  1. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
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  2. elrond_buggard

    elrond_buggard Member Full Member

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    The era wasn't that weak, he just avoided the best competition in it, fighting mostly #15-30 guys while AJ fought legit top 10s.
     
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  3. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just a limited guy with heart and power. If he didn't become champion and wasn't an idiot he would probably be looked at more favorably.
     
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  4. edabomb

    edabomb Active Member Full Member

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    When Wilder finally stepped up to fight some of his contemporaries across 6 fights (Fury x2, Parker, Zhang, Ortiz x2) he struggled to win a single round without a knockdown in his favour. With Ortiz the jury is still out on how good he actually was, he doesn't have much on his own resume.

    I will say he achieved a great deal with what he had. Full credit to his matchmakers.
     
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  5. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Have you ever seen any other scuba Scott fights? Watch him against Ortiz. He’s not diving, it’s just the way he is. Shocking but he finds his way to the floor fairly easily with grazing shots In many fights.
    I think he didn’t have much heart in his fights and fought scared against better guys
     
  6. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    Big puncher, very entertaining because of his combination of power and vulnerability, but was a very limited fighter who padded the **** out of his record for years and has come up short against 3 of the 4 actual elite level opponents hes faced. Might have sparked AJ with a Hail Mary given the stylistic match up but overall he was clearly the weakest link of the big 4 faces of his era (him, Fury, Usyk, AJ)
     
  7. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah sure pal do a poll I dare you him and Fraudley both took a dive and who knows how many before his stuff was televised.
     
  8. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    The boxer who knocked down Tyson Fury the most times - that's Wilder's entire legacy.
     
  9. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Why do I need a poll?
    My eyes see what they see and I’ve lived the sport, fought on cards with some of the fighters we are talking about and been on the circuits with them.
    so don’t need votes off some strangers on a poll to tell me what I know.
    watch Scott vs Ortiz and tell me Scott isn’t similarly appaling.

    you need a tin foil hat, everyone took dives with wilder, did the atg fury too?
    If you know what makes a fighter go in the ring, to accuse them of taking dives for someone is a very serious accusation.
    It’s not like wilder is linked with that mob guy kinehan.
     
  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AJ is proof of the weak era,,,he was blown away by a tub of lard.
     
  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    You can both be right to some extent...

    A fighter with AJ's limitations having arguably the best resume behind Usyk says a lot about how weak the era was - AND Wilder avoiding almost all of the top ten and only beating one or two (who probably shouldn't have been there) says a lot about how good he almost certainly wasn't in an all-time sense.

    The era wasn't great - it's probably an exaggeration to say it was straight up awful, but it's not likely to be remembered as a classic.
     
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  12. elrond_buggard

    elrond_buggard Member Full Member

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    Whatever you think of the era, it's safe to say Wilder barely engaged with the best fighters from it. And the lard tub still managed to beat Wilder's best win.
     
  13. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Al Haymon... the same reason Scott was in a WBC final eliminator after getting knocked out by Derek Chisora, then fighting someone with a record of 7 - 12 -1 record that is the best WBC fighter available? Of course for Wilder after Scuba Scott went on to face Jason Gavern 25-16-4... so nothing new there just another bum. All around the WBC is a corrupt joke.


    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/scott.713998/
     
  14. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    ok pal
     
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  15. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But it was an explanation provided way after the fact, when he was trying to make Fury sign for the third fight.

    Remember what Wilder and Finkel originally said while rejecting the DAZN deal? I do.

    -They didn't want to fight on DAZN, cause "this way not a lot of people will see Wilder knocking AJ out"
    -They were afraid that the contract won't stick after Wilder knocks out AJ in the first fight as AJ may retire (while requesting the rematch clause themselves a year earlier, lol)
    -They had a better financial plan for Wilder than 120 million for 3 fights. Wilder of course didn't make that much in his next 5 fights.

    The BS about being a man of his word came out way later.