Is Usyk an ATG at Heavyweight?

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Is Usyk an ATG at Heavyweight?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    All he is required to do is to win be it by points or stoppage that is ultimately irrelevant.
     
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  2. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it’s not. No KO is like watching TV without sounds. Or spaghetti without sauce.
     
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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    He is an ATG full stop. No he is not the greatest heavyweight in history but his accomplishments at CW combined with Heavyweight prove he is an ATG. He rivals Holyfield for being the greatest Cruiserweight of all time. I would also add that he is so charismatic which a real world boxing champion should be especially the heavyweight champion of the world as a larger than life character.
     
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  4. themaster458

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    POV: You're arguing with a casual
     
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  5. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How is that Merlot and blue cheese?
     
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  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    KO or points if you win you win.
     
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  7. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Delicious, thanks for asking. How’s that sloop you call food?
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    He absolutely is.

    Not sure where to rank him though.

    When I drink his koolaid I put him at the top.

    When I'm more objective I can't make a case for him being above:

    Muhammad Ali
    Joe Louis
    Lennox Lewis
    Mike Tyson
    George Foreman
    Larry Holmes
    Wladimir Klitschko
    Joe Frazier
     
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  9. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Marciano comparison is spot on. He had a similar career as the heavyweight titlist and the champion.
     
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  10. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes.

    I don't know if he's top 10, however.
     
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  11. DaRealJT

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    If the Klitschkos are universally viewed as ATGs, then absolutely 100% Usyk is an ATG
     
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  12. AdamT

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    30 wins with 29 kos and 6 losses
    35 wins with 17 kos and 1 loss

    I know which of the above I'd prefer if fighting similar competition
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    I'd like to hear why Marciano is a greater HW than Usyk. The others are but Rocky?
     
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  14. themaster458

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    On my list I actually have him just above Rocky
     
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  15. Serge

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    It's not just what he's achieved it's the way he went about doing so

    He turned up for a gang fight on his own

    They said: ''Are you crazy? Where is your crew?''

    He replied: ''Yes, let's go''

    They pulled out their weapons

    They said: ''Where is your shank?''

    He replied: ''These (holds up clenched fists) are my weapons''

    They went on him 10-1 and even though they had weapons and outnumbered him greatly they bit, scratched, poked him in the eye, and sucker punched him

    He fought clean

    He did everything the manly and noble way and he still came out on top
     
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