Muhammad Ali (Zaire) vs prime Jersey Joe Walcott

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Who wins?

  1. Ali KO/TKO

    20 vote(s)
    50.0%

  2. Ali PTS

    18 vote(s)
    45.0%

  3. Walcott KO/TKO

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. Walcott PTS

    2 vote(s)
    5.0%
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  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who wins this matchup?
     
    Devon, Jan 15, 2025
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  2. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Levels...
     
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  3. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    “Ali bomaye”
     
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  4. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    I mean, Walcott was on a higher level than Ken Norton...
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Norton was also on a higher level at heavyweight than Joey Maxim. Much higher.
     
    JohnThomas1, Jan 16, 2025
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  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ken presented different set of problems that Joe would've offered.

    Good tactical fight. Muhammad would have had the edge in speed while JJ was a harder puncher. Both men brilliant boxers but Muhammad of '74 was on a different level.

    Ali via late rounds technical knockout.
     
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  7. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    Ali survives a rough night dealing with Walcott's bag of tricks and grabs an UD.
     
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  8. nyterpfan

    nyterpfan Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly as I see it! Walcott would give Ali a tough fight--but Ali's grit and overall skillset would be the difference. A close but unanimous UD.
     
    nyterpfan, Jan 16, 2025
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Not even in the same league.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Was Norton a journeyman?
     
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  11. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you think SuperDome Ali beats him?
     
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  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I went with Ali on points. Seems like the safest bet
     
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  13. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. Superdome Ali was still crafty and cagey but a hell of a lot slower than Zaire incarnation of Muhammad.
     
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  14. Pedro_El_Chef

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    Are we talking about 1930s Walcott here or the best version that cleared the division?
     
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  15. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    A man that Walcott beat twice immediately after losing to?
    Wonder how Norton crossing paths with an Elmer Ray, Louis or Marciano would play out?
    (Not really, we all know exactly how that'd go).
     
    Pedro_El_Chef, Jan 16, 2025
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