Is Madrimov Overrated

CST80 · Jan 19, 2025

Yes and no, he's being underrated by the in denial Crawford fanboys who are ultra defensive about how well he did against Crawford, who are desperately trying to paint a narrative that it was a one-sided schooling. But he's also being overrated by another faction of Crawford fanboys as a coping mechanism, because in their heart of hearts, they know he did enough to pull off the win or at the very least a draw. So they need to put a spin on Crawford looking less than stellar. Of course I said he was going to be a stylistic nightmare for Crawford, so that didn't shock me at all. But his power is not world class, and his skill set while definitely bordering on elite, it's nothing extraordinary. Also he was unproven against world-class operators, so compared to the rest of the elite in the division, we don't really know where he stacks up. But we know he does well against blown up welterweights.

He's also being overrated by the denigrators of Vergil Ortiz Jr, who feel threatened by him for their favorite fighters and desperately want him to lose. So they're blowing out of proportion how bad the flash knockdowns were against relentless KO artist Bohachuk, who I knew was going to be a stylistic nightmare and was afraid for Ortiz going into it. After all he'd never been 12 rounds, or fought a puncher at 154. Yet in his legit debut in the division, after a long spell out due to his illness, against one of the heaviest handed high volume fighters in the division, he went 12 rounds in an absolute Fight of the Year war. Yet he inexplicably ended up, finishing the stronger of the two. Madrimov ain't about that life, as we saw against Crawford, he's a very cautious fighter who likes taking minimal risks, who won't let his hands go unless he has the perfect shot lined up. That was two risk averse tacticians in there, playing chess. When Bud went to war, Madrimov freaked out and went into a defensive shell, Ortiz is going to bring non-stop violent war from the opening bell.

northpaw · Jan 20, 2025

BoxingIQ said: ↑

I see many are favoring Madrimov to beat Ortiz Jr but I just don't see it. Ortiz is clearly the more talented fighter and I believe Madrimov is only getting hyped because he was competitive against Crawford. I have Prtiz Jr by decision due to stylistic matchup
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Vergil was more talented than Bohachuk too, and yet......................talent don't tell the whole tale

iceferg · Jan 20, 2025

I. Picking Madrimov here. Ortiz lost his last fight.

hoopsman · Jan 20, 2025

CST80 said: ↑

Yes and no, he's being underrated by the in denial Crawford fanboys who are ultra defensive about how well he did against Crawford, who are desperately trying to paint a narrative that it was a one-sided schooling. But he's also being overrated by another faction of Crawford fanboys as a coping mechanism, because in their heart of hearts, they know he did enough to pull off the win or at the very least a draw. So they need to put a spin on Crawford looking less than stellar. Of course I said he was going to be a stylistic nightmare for Crawford, so that didn't shock me at all. But his power is not world class, and his skill set while definitely bordering on elite, it's nothing extraordinary. Also he was unproven against world-class operators, so compared to the rest of the elite in the division, we don't really know where he stacks up. But we know he does well against blown up welterweights.

He's also being overrated by the denigrators of Vergil Ortiz Jr, who feel threatened by him for their favorite fighters and desperately want him to lose. So they're blowing out of proportion how bad the flash knockdowns were against relentless KO artist Bohachuk, who I knew was going to be a stylistic nightmare and was afraid for Ortiz going into it. After all he'd never been 12 rounds, or fought a puncher at 154. Yet in his legit debut in the division, after a long spell out due to his illness, against one of the heaviest handed high volume fighters in the division, he went 12 rounds in an absolute Fight of the Year war. Yet he inexplicably ended up, finishing the stronger of the two. Madrimov ain't about that life, as we saw against Crawford, he's a very cautious fighter who likes taking minimal risks, who won't let his hands go unless he has the perfect shot lined up. That was two risk averse tacticians in there, playing chess. When Bud went to war, Madrimov freaked out and went into a defensive shell, Ortiz is going to bring non-stop violent war from the opening bell.
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There's some worthwhile insight in here.

JusABoxinFan · Jan 20, 2025

Boxed Ears said: ↑

Yo for real doe I gotta cousin.
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You must be special needs or someone just dying for attention.

LrryMrchntsFlsk · Jan 20, 2025

CST80 said: ↑

Yes and no, he's being underrated by the in denial Crawford fanboys who are ultra defensive about how well he did against Crawford, who are desperately trying to paint a narrative that it was a one-sided schooling. But he's also being overrated by another faction of Crawford fanboys as a coping mechanism, because in their heart of hearts, they know he did enough to pull off the win or at the very least a draw. So they need to put a spin on Crawford looking less than stellar. Of course I said he was going to be a stylistic nightmare for Crawford, so that didn't shock me at all. But his power is not world class, and his skill set while definitely bordering on elite, it's nothing extraordinary. Also he was unproven against world-class operators, so compared to the rest of the elite in the division, we don't really know where he stacks up. But we know he does well against blown up welterweights.

He's also being overrated by the denigrators of Vergil Ortiz Jr, who feel threatened by him for their favorite fighters and desperately want him to lose. So they're blowing out of proportion how bad the flash knockdowns were against relentless KO artist Bohachuk, who I knew was going to be a stylistic nightmare and was afraid for Ortiz going into it. After all he'd never been 12 rounds, or fought a puncher at 154. Yet in his legit debut in the division, after a long spell out due to his illness, against one of the heaviest handed high volume fighters in the division, he went 12 rounds in an absolute Fight of the Year war. Yet he inexplicably ended up, finishing the stronger of the two. Madrimov ain't about that life, as we saw against Crawford, he's a very cautious fighter who likes taking minimal risks, who won't let his hands go unless he has the perfect shot lined up. That was two risk averse tacticians in there, playing chess. When Bud went to war, Madrimov freaked out and went into a defensive shell, Ortiz is going to bring non-stop violent war from the opening bell.
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A good read and an interesting perspective.

elmaldito · Jan 20, 2025

MidniteProwler said: ↑

He hasn’t had many pro fights and he arguably beat Crawford so not really any grounds to call him overrated.
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arguably won 3 to 4 rounds sounds better.

Boxed Ears · Jan 21, 2025

JusABoxinFan said: ↑

You must be special needs or someone just dying for attention.
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No I mean my cousin god why would i say that i was? ru serious?

Badbot · Jan 21, 2025

iceferg said: ↑

I. Picking Madrimov here. Ortiz lost his last fight.
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But... so did Madrimov.

JusABoxinFan · Jan 21, 2025

Boxed Ears said: ↑

No I mean my cousin god why would i say that i was? ru serious?
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Are you reading you messages back to yourself? You sound punch drunk.

Only other reason for this that I haven't mentioned is that English isn't your first language. Hell, the way you are talking, it's probably not your 2nd or 3rd language either.

Braindamage · Jan 21, 2025

MidniteProwler said: ↑

He hasn’t had many pro fights and he arguably beat Crawford so not really any grounds to call him overrated.
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He's only overrated if people keep saying that he beat Crawford. He lost straight up.

Dorrian_Grey · Jan 21, 2025

I really like Madrimov. He's really herky-jerky and his footwork is so satisfying to watch. The way he gets angles and applies pressure is just a delight to see. And despite the complaints others seem to have about him feinting too much, I personally appreciate it, I like how fluid and creative he is with his feints and how he uses it to set up punches.
I think he's rated fairly, some maybe glaze him too much (myself included quite possibly) in an attempt to gas up Bud's win over him, while others **** on him too much to denigrate Bud's win or make it seem like Bud didn't have any issues beating him. It's the same with every fighter, some fans praise them to high Heavens, others look to endlessly demean them and their accomplishments. On the whole though, I do think that he's rated about right.
For reference, I thought Madrimov edged out Crawford and believe he will take a decision over Vergil.

Boxed Ears · Jan 21, 2025

JusABoxinFan said: ↑

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You sound punch drunk.

Only other reason for this that I haven't mentioned is that English isn't your first language. Hell, the way you are talking, it's probably not your 2nd or 3rd language either.
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Am I reading me messages back to myself? I mean you right I don't understand but grew up in Bama. Are you from here too?

Znith · Jan 21, 2025

Madrimov vs Ortiz is a weird match. I don’t know how madrimov will react if Ortiz keeps a high pace and high output. However If Ortiz is leaving himself open it might end bad for him, Ms power is not bad by any means. It’s a weird matchup of styles and I don’t know if madrimov will be able
To feint and set up his punches like he did against bud.

Shazzar23 · Jan 21, 2025

CST80 said: ↑

Yes and no, he's being underrated by the in denial Crawford fanboys who are ultra defensive about how well he did against Crawford, who are desperately trying to paint a narrative that it was a one-sided schooling. But he's also being overrated by another faction of Crawford fanboys as a coping mechanism, because in their heart of hearts, they know he did enough to pull off the win or at the very least a draw. So they need to put a spin on Crawford looking less than stellar. Of course I said he was going to be a stylistic nightmare for Crawford, so that didn't shock me at all. But his power is not world class, and his skill set while definitely bordering on elite, it's nothing extraordinary. Also he was unproven against world-class operators, so compared to the rest of the elite in the division, we don't really know where he stacks up. But we know he does well against blown up welterweights.

He's also being overrated by the denigrators of Vergil Ortiz Jr, who feel threatened by him for their favorite fighters and desperately want him to lose. So they're blowing out of proportion how bad the flash knockdowns were against relentless KO artist Bohachuk, who I knew was going to be a stylistic nightmare and was afraid for Ortiz going into it. After all he'd never been 12 rounds, or fought a puncher at 154. Yet in his legit debut in the division, after a long spell out due to his illness, against one of the heaviest handed high volume fighters in the division, he went 12 rounds in an absolute Fight of the Year war. Yet he inexplicably ended up, finishing the stronger of the two. Madrimov ain't about that life, as we saw against Crawford, he's a very cautious fighter who likes taking minimal risks, who won't let his hands go unless he has the perfect shot lined up. That was two risk averse tacticians in there, playing chess. When Bud went to war, Madrimov freaked out and went into a defensive shell, Ortiz is going to bring non-stop violent war from the opening bell.
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