Fury will come back if/when the right opportunity arises

I'm not really sure of the relevance when scanning over
What was your point?
I thought your point was highlighting someone choosing not to fight someone in the same division, so I was asking for some specifics and put forward how the two respective boxers were on the same bill in a bid to sell a potential fight, so what was your point please?

 

The comment I initially responded to:

"If Joshua doesn't get a pass for ducking Dubois then Fury doesn't get a pass for ducking Joshua"

Put 2 and 2 together from there.

 

It's the fear of reality as it sinks in that AJ might actually beat his hero. Then fury isn't even remembered as being the best British HW of this era and that will end miniq. He is also living in the fear that once fury retires for good his life has no meaning.

Poor fella.

 

I'd bet money on Aj now despite his loss to Dubois

Still think it's close to 50/50, but I lean to Joshua in all honesty. Styles make fights and Fury is a more difficult puzzle for usyk than Aj. As long as AJ doesn't have PTSD following Dubois, i think he wins as he is closer to his physical prime

If it was made 2 plus years ago? I would favour Fury, but Aj is a difficult style for Fury imo

I think Fury knows this and he won't risk a loss to his rival, unless he is paid VERY handsomely

I hope I'm wrong, but Aj might put his lights out in a few rounds and this could be the heavyweight version of Brook v khan

 

So my question is the same

When did he (Joshua) duck (Wilder) him?

They were also recently on the same bill to build interest for a showdown but Wilder lost to Parker


On a separate note
Joshua fought Dubois and lost, so certainly didn't decide against facing him
Fury hasn't fought Joshua at all

I'm guessing you are referring to Joshua not fighting Dubois next and maybe he never will, or it may be similar to when Fury first fought Wilder and decided against taking an immediate rematch and had a couple of fights first after a tough fight where he was twice knocked down.
I wonder if Joshua may leave it a while and have two tune ups?

 

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He's an idiot
He won't get that much

Must be terrified of joshua

 

Ok so you clearly don't get it. I'd appreciate you read the entire thread for context before jumping on to quote me in the future.

When Wilder lost to Parker it was used as justification as to why AJ shouldn't fight him because Wilder "dropped the ball". I just applied the same logic when AJ got blasted by Dubios out as to why Fury wouldn't fight him next, because it was a fight AJ also "dropped the ball" in (this happened before Fury lost to Usyk, but as far as I'm concerned this would cancel out anyway as neither of them had avenged their loss to Usyk).

The overall goal was to point out that if people saw this as Fury ducking AJ, why is it not the same when AJ didn't want to fight Wilder anymore?

For the record, I believe that in both cases the big fights should have happened regardless of loss. It's a bit funny that AJ always seems to get a pass from his fans though...

 

AJ won his fight against Wallin. Fury is coming from the back to back losses. They are both losers so the logic doesn't apply. Plus Fury didn't seem to mind that Joshua lost when he proposed him a fight in 2022.

 

I encourage you to read the full post.

 

I did, there is no logic in it.

 

AJ got humiliated by Dubios, won't avenge his loss, and you still think he deserves a shot at Fury?

Sure you can mention Fury's back to back losses against Usyk, but AJ has the same so they cancel out.

And I didn't see AJ fighting Wilder after his loss. Why should AJ get special treatment here? Guy has 4 losses on his record, 2 to people he had no business losing to.

 

Calm down and stop being so uptight
It is an open forum where anyone can jump in.
I understand it can be a but annoying when someone comments without context, but nobody is going to go through all of your posts specifically or the entire thread on every occasion
I did scan your posts though and felt you were jumping around a bit in your opinion, which is why I asked some questions

By who? What did someone specifically say?
I think a big difference there was also that Wilder was soundly beaten by someone Joshua handled comfortably some years back

Some differences being that Fury hadn't fought Dubois or any other young top contenders really to make a comparison.
Dubois wasn't soundly beaten by someone Fury had already beaten
Fury was saying about wanting the Joshua fight
Fury called Joshua out very soon after Joshua suffered two successive losses

The main part though is that it now has nothing to do with either giving the other a shot. They are two beaten fighters neither holding a title
They are arguably a similar level

Who said he doesn't?
The fights do have to have a certain amount of interest and do you think the vast majority of fans now want Fury/Joshua or Joshua/Wilder?
Which one do you think has the bigger interest or would generate the most financially?

Give him a pass for what?
I am not a fan of him but have to be fair

Tell me specifically what is incorrect with below

1.
Joshua couldn't challenge Fury as Fury decided not to defend his titles after beating Wladimir

2.
Joshua signed to fight Fury, but Fury didn't face him and fought Wilder a third time

3.
Wilder admitted he took a Fury fight for less money offered than to fight Joshua


Tell me if any of 1, 2 or 3 is not correct and I will stand corrected if wrong

 

There isn't really a shot either way
Neither hold a title and both have lost

Dubois may have had similar success against Fury. We really don't know as I can't recall Fury up against a top young contender when in his middle 30s

Which indicates you feel that they are of a similar stage

What is the special treatment you are referring to exactly? Just curious to know

 

I think Fury doesn’t want to risk losing to the AJ that got smashed by Dubois. Not saying he would lose but if he did, it would be a bad look.

Let AJ get back in the win column and then fight him for silly money, then retire.