If Crawford beats Canelo he is the P4P Goat

Good post.

 

Nope, neither has Crawford.

 

He beat Spence,
therefore, in my book, Crawford already is the P4P Goat

 

I think its a terrible fight, more then likely Crawford is going to end with a 1 on he's record he would and should never have got.

 

I don't disagree. Crawford would and should become P4P number 1 past Usyk until he retires if he defeats Canelo.

The issue is that I don't realistically see any chance of it occuring hence I can't get excited.

 

Bluntly put he's selling his zero to get retirement funding for himself and family.

 

I don't even consider Canelo as ATG. Too many controversial wins. Not a single win over any Prime HOF/ATG fighter. He is First Ballot HOF, no doubt about it. Even if i'm forced to put Canelo in ATG list, i'd put him somewhere in top 90-100.

 

As for Crawford, it would earn him a discussion in ATG list at the lowest tier (Similar to my Canelo post above, around Rank 91-100). Nowhere near the Top 20 ATGs, let alone the GOAT discussion.

Do keep in mind, both Crawford and Canelo are past their primes.

 

Not exciting because they are names of champions that didn't have a strong American following. But names like Burns, Gamboa, Khan, Brook, Postol, Madrimov, etc....they have as big or bigger followings in their homeland than many of the "sexy names" that American fans marvel like Jaron Ennis, Shawn Porter, Danny Garcia, Errol Spence Jr., & Keith Thurman.

I guess we'll ignore the fact that some of those "sexy names" literally decided against fighting Crawford....like Adrien Broner, Danny Garcia, Manny Pacquiao, Keith Thurman, Mikey Garcia, & Vergil Ortiz......

 

My thoughts as well
Can't see him beating Canelo, but definitely surpasses Usyk for all time if he can

Edit
Can't say he definitely surpasses him, but I believe I'd have him higher and he's In the conversation

 

If crawford beats canelo, yeah than he is top 3 of all time but especially after the Madridov fight I am pretty sure that canelo will stop crawford

 

Not but **** no

 

Over Usyk??
Maybe.

 

Yeah you're probably right TBH I just said it to be fair but there is a strong case that Canelo isn't an ATG.

 

cant wait! Alot of crow to be served. I do see alot have jumped on the crawford banwagon since i first mentioned this fight. When i first mentioned canelo vs crawford it was similar to joshua ruiz with 99% of people picking canelo. Now its like 70/30. By fight time i think 65-35 or 60-40 at the most. Plenty of seat left on the crawford train. Going down as the greatest fighter of my day.