CMV: I think Usyk beats any version of Ali

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Ah yes, i'd forgotten his age. He's top level for sure.
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you think Psychology doesn't win fights, you should read about Kid McCoy and Tommy Ryan.
     
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  3. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not the primary factor and it's being used as a copout to ignore stylistic issues
     
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  4. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He claimed he was but fair enough perhaps it was just exaggeration
    That seems to be taking something I said out of context just to try and get a dig at me. And it seems disingenuous to compare Ali against Norton who was still pretty close to his physical prime and looked in good shape in the second fight to Wlad who was close to 40 and far past his prime this is what you call an apples to oranges comparison.
    Except no one corrects me they simply keep repeating the same arguments even when I address their points and show why their arguments are wrong and instead of acknowledging or agreeing to disagree they double down because they can't admit perhaps their perception of fights is wrong and I (the person they hate) is correct all it shows is how dogmatic the people here are when they are challenged. I only so when someone attacks me or is condescending which is pretty common because people can't abide by someone challenging their dogma and nothing i said has been particularly deeogative from my view.
     
  5. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm way older. I also look at styles, but it's also about individual skill. Not every swarmer will beat any boxer, not every boxer will beat every slugger, not every slugger will beat every swarmer. Otherwise boxers would not fight those they match up badly with.
     
  6. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know more than you. And you beat me to the title of the biggest clown.
     
  7. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What Wlad did before his prime or when he got old is irrelevant.
    We are matching up prime vs prime here.
     
  8. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Losing to a journeyman in one's prime does not enhance one's resume.
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Voices…, I hear voices….:D
     
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  10. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    @swagdelfadeel (Swag) has been posting since he was a zygote, so that must make him THE prodigy, I would think. ;)
     
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  11. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    How do you imagine the voices in your head to look like? I think of all of mine as little Fraggles.
     
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  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I never said that it was THE deciding factor.

    But it can be a HUGE factor.
     
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  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    The forum has got some great posters.

    To be honest, I can’t believe how knowledgable George is. Especially with the older fighters at the lower weights.
     
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  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha!
     
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  15. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    :lol: That’s a nice, mental imaging. Takes the edge from hearing any voices in the first place. :D
     
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