Prime Archie Moore vs Prime Oleksandr Usyk

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Usyk vs Moore

  1. Moore via KO

    3 vote(s)
    6.8%
  2. Moore via Decision

    1 vote(s)
    2.3%
  3. Usyk via Decision

    17 vote(s)
    38.6%
  4. Usyk via KO

    23 vote(s)
    52.3%
  1. GRIFFIN

    GRIFFIN "Speak softly and carry a big punch" Full Member

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    Both of these fighters had massive success in multiple weight classes, but which was is better?
     
  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    In terms of head to head against each other: Usyk wins.

    In terms of career success they each had theirs in different weight classes. Moore was most succesful at light heavyweight while Usyk was successful at Cruiserweight and Heavyweight.

    Usyk stands four inches taller with the longer reach, is the naturally bigger man who fought in higher weight divisions comfortably never losing. Usyk even went into other people's backyards and took decisions.

    Moore weighed around 190 when he faced Marciano and lost.

    The question here being: Did Moore's skillset overcome his physical limitations allowing him to have the same success Usyk has has enjoyed in a higher weight?

    The answer here being: No.
     
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  3. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Usyk points, but stoppage is there if he wants it
     
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  4. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk stops him way too big and skilled plus Moore isn't experienced with fighting southpaws so Usyk would find the home for his left hand pretty easily
     
  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk.

    I wouldn't pick any LHW to beat Usyk, although I would not count Charles out of any fight, either.
     
  6. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Usyk stops Archie Moore? Really? One needs to have seen Moore box before making such a decision.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Moore had over 60 wins at Heavyweight and beat over 20+ fighters who weighed 200+ pounds including the likes of Nino Valdes who was 6'3 200+.

    Usyk has never come close to fighting someone of Moore's level at Cruiserweight it's a very close fight.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What are you asking exactly?

    Who had the better career?

    Who ranks higher?

    Who would have won in a H2H fight?
     
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  9. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is Moore adjusted to the modern era though?
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Usyk has fought 23 pro fights.

    Archie fought 220 fights.

    And against guys like a prime Ali, when he was in his 40’s.

    Context is needed.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nobody here believes that you are knowledgable of the career of Archie Moore.
     
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  12. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Am I wrong though?
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Absolutely.

    Archie was immensely skilled.

    It would have been a great fight. Especially at CW.
     
  14. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Archie was an expert at neutralizing the jab,but the problem is Usyk being a southpaw,60/50 although I lean more to Archie for power.
     
  15. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He lost anytime he stepped up to challenge for the title at heavyweight though. I also don't think the cross shell style that he used would work against a southpaw.