The 90s are a true golden HW era; HW 70s are nostalgia...

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  1. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really a golden era. You had great fighters but the only fight that you could say that 2 fighters at their best fought each other was the first Holyfield v Bowe fight
     
  2. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    And which fight in the 70s between 2 fighters was "at their best"?
    It's neither FOTC nor The Rumble in the Jungle nor Thrilla in Manila, Norton Vs. Holmes (Norton's peak is fight Ali 1, with Holmes is Norton's past prime).
    "The Rumble" isn't Foreman's best, but it might be his dumbest.
     
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  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's true. FOTC and The Rumble happened when the public demand and hype for them were at their peak, though.

    Tyson-Holy did good numbers, but at least my feeling at the time was that it was 5 years late. Don't think I was alone in that.

    Bowe-Holy, the prime for prime match-up, really became a phenom afterwards. It was seen as the best challenger he'd had, but I don't remember is as hyped as some super showdown beforehand. Lewis-Bowe was more anticipated I'd say.
     
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  4. Bokaj

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    By everything's that's holy, I hope you're not suggesting that Ali was the one who was at his best, not Foreman.

    And this "dumbest fight" might be one of the if not dumbest at least most generic takes here. I mean, he could have stood back and jabbed with Ali and maybe made it to the final bell (but only maybe) and lost a lopsided decision, but then the line would be that he choked and didn't go for it.

    No one who complains about how stupidly Foreman fought really gives a clear alternative to what he actually should have been doing.

    He couldn't jabbed with Ali like Norton could, that much was clear, and he sure as hell couldn't bob and weave and come up with tight hooks from underneath like Frazier, so what exactly was the right gameplan for him?
     
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  5. Jakub79

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    today it is, then definitely not. After Lewis-Tucker there was no demand for Lennox fights.
     
  6. JackSilver

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    When did I say the 70s was the golden era? I just said the 90s wasn’t
     
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  7. OddR

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    I actually think both the 70s and 90s are both a little overhyped.
     
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  8. Bokaj

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    One 70's fight that didn't really happen when it should was the Ali-Frazier rematch. That should have happened after Ali-Quarry 2, at least one year earlier than it did.
     
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  9. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    All ok mate :)
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/1990s-top-ten-heavyweight-fights.732987/page-2#post-23270655
    1. Bowe vs Holyfield 1
    2. Holyfield vs Tyson 1
    3. Douglas vs Tyson
    4. Lewis vs Ruddock
    5. Holyfield vs Moorer 2 (to resolve the "heart problems" from last time).
    6. Holyfield vs Bowe 2
    7. Bowe vs Holyfield 3
    8. Lewis vs Briggs
    9. Lewis vs Golota (Andrew Golota is coming off two fights with Bowe)
    10. Foreman vs Moorer
    Tyson Vs. Ruddock 2
    Lewis Vs. Mercer
    Ike Vs. Tua and other mentioned fights on the thread:
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/1990s-top-ten-heavyweight-fights.732987/page-2#post-23270655
     
  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I fall asleep whenever I watch Foreman vs Lyle
     
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  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, regularly prescribed against insomnia here in Sweden.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Trivia: Walcott passed away in 1994, the same year his record was broken by Foreman.
     
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  14. Jakub79

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    I think the fights could have been equally interesting, the sports level was lower... The 5 best HWs from the 70s eat the 5 best fighters from the 90s for breakfast. Perhaps the background of the 1990s was a bit better, but the top 5 HW of the 1970s was really something big.
     
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  15. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    From ATG HW 70s "zero" lost: Ali, Frazier, and Foreman.
    From ATG HW 90s "zero" lost: Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis and Wlad.