Would Cotto at 154 had beaten Madrimov?

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  1. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is it fair to say that madrimov would've been too much fir cotto due to superior defense, size, athleticism, and versatility?
     
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    Assume we mean the 154lb version of Cotto from Yuri Foreman through D-Rod? (even in his losses to Mayweather and Trout during that three year stretch he was in much better form than in his victory over one-dimensional Kamegai and losses to Ali or Canelo).

    Best for best idk. It isn't that much of a size advantage for The Dream (1½″ of height and 1½″ of reach), and he has dropped handfuls of rounds to much lesser fighters than Cotto.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Madrimov is about to lose to Vergil Ortiz he is getting overrated
     
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    Badbot You can just do things.

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    No shame in loosing to Ortiz tho.
     
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    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Cotto was a proper fighter.
     
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    Cotto best days were lower than 154. What a fighter.
     
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  9. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes..... but...
     
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    No one knows we don't know what Madrimov's ceiling is yet we need to see how his career pans out the Ortiz fight should give us a decent gauge on Madrimov's level.
     
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    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Doubtful. Cotto was decent at 154
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    I've got Cotto. Madrimov showed against Crawford that he didn't know how to infight or kick it up a gear in the championship rounds.
     
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    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz started at 140 and has never won a world title. There will be a bit of shame when Ortiz shuts him down with a powerjab, doesn't respect his feints and beats him up.
     
  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Maybe for you, but not for most others. Ortiz is the favorite going into this one.

    And Ortiz was at 140 when he was a freaking teenager. How is this even a relevant point?
     
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  15. BoxingIQ

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    Kinda average tbh
     
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