Who ranks highest all time Hopkins, Mayweather, Pacquiao or Usyk ?

Mayweather has a massive advantage over Usyk in terms of depth though with more than twice as many contenders beaten

 

Anybody can make up quotes.

"I won't fight Joe Calzaghe in the UK, I want my American referee and judges to help out if I need them" - Roy Jones 1999

"Calzaghe has to come over to America. I know the fight would make more money in the UK, but I won't take the risk - I need a referee who will permit me to fight dirty" - Bernard Hopkins 2003

1. Usyk
2. Pacquiao
3. Mayweather
4. Hopkins

In that order.

 

Made up quotes are you for real my guy ? that's your response ? so basically you have no rebuttal to what i've said because it shoots down your theory in flames and you respond with this ? oh my.

"I could probably give Jones a tough fight, probably the best fight he's ever had," said Calzaghe. "But I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown jewels I wouldn't want to risk it."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/art ... article.do

Only someone that doesn't know about the history of boxing would have Usyk above Mayweather, Pacquiao.

 

Here's another quote which i know @Loudon knows about.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2008/oct/12/boxing-sportinterviews#:~:text=It was a third successive,both of his last fights.

"it was a third successive loss, which had apparently finished his career and made Calzaghe's verdict following the Johnson defeat seem all the more damning: 'I hope Roy decides to retire. I'm not at all interested in facing someone who has been knocked out in both of his last fights."

 

A weight class every 5-7 pounds at 200+ isn’t comparable because HW is already smaller than every weight class Floyd fought in

 

Floyd is at top.


Usyk at bottom.

 

And each of those divisions would have 200-400 people while Mayweather has multiple with 2500+

 

Even if you think he would, it’s completely different to win in a division with a few hundred people and a division with a couple thousand people

 

Serge, this is beneath you. I respect your input but this is reaching.

There are smaller increments in divisions lower down for a reason, a 6lb difference in hw is negligible, it’s huge in fw. This is because it’s a large % of their overall weight.

also, usyk is a fine hw… hypothetically he may make a fine fw, but we don’t know and he may not.

Bridgerweight was created, but small hw like usyk and wilder have openly rejected going there as the competition is low, the numbers are low. When you are the big fish in an ocean, why go to a pond.

 

That’s better serge!


I agree, more weight divisions doesn’t mean better. B hop staying and reigning at mw means a lot to me. In fact, I think reigning and ruling is oft forgotten.
Usyk’s main issue here is he has done so much in so few fights, I feel he just needs more fights to fill it out a bit.

Also ruling Bridger doesnt mean as much as other weights, as nobody is there, so the calibre or volume or your division does play a relevance. However this only supports usyk, who dominated one of the strongest cw divisions in history and beat some of the biggest(not best) hw champs in history.


boxing is not all about beating the big names, it’s about consistency and pulling through against different styles too. Winning as the underdog and favourite. Which is capable with usyk, I’m a big believer in him, but I think pac, Floyd, and b hop just have more…

 

Usyk gets hit very often by fighters less skilled than the guys floyd faced
The talent pool is WAY deeper in lower weight divisions

I am sorry, I do give Usyk his flowers. Great boxer, maybe the greatest in the last decade, but greater than Floyd aand Manny? NO chance in hell

I get many will disagree, but many more will agree