Wlad lost every round. He couldn't beat Fury ever on any night. Useless telegraphed robot almost as bad as AJ.
Here comes the brigade of DKSAB folks who are going to list names with no context and act as if they've told the story in a fair way. These posters will list "Klitschko" for both Fury and Joshua and act as if the circumstances were exactly the same. Defeating a REIGNING CHAMPION who was effectively undisputed in his back yard is a monumental accomplishment. Doing so without hardly taking a shot is unheard of. To come back and defeat another REIGNING CHAMPION in his back yard is again, important when assessing a fighters greatness. These same posters will say Chisora of Fury-Chisora III is a plodding bum and give Fury no credit, despite the fact that this would be the best win on Joshua's resume in the last 7 years.
Wlad didn't lose every round, and it was an ugly bout. There's also two huge asterisks around it: 1) Was Fury on PEDs? 2) Was Wlad at his best? We know the answer to #1 is "probably, yes" and #2 is "probably not". Ultimately, Fury could've answered #2 by taking the damn rematch. When the far more proven fighter chooses not to take it, you can assume they've conceded they were well beaten... When the more proven fighter is desperate to fight again and far less proven fighter clearly doesn't want the rematch? The odds of it being a fluked win look a LOT higher - and this is where Wlad-Fury sits.
Yep imagine how his resume would look had he beaten wlad in a rematch. It means Joshua wouldn't have got wlad Honestly had he beaten Joshua in their primes and rematched wlad, his resume would look so much better. Would make Usyk’s better too
I don't think it would look better had he rematched Wlad. I think it would look better had he not retired.
Both would've looked significantly better. For me, underdog wins warrant rematches to prove they're not flukes... The only way it ages badly for Fury is if he got absolutely destroyed in the rematch and made his win look like a fluke. Definitely retiring in his prime looks bad.
Everyone is forgetting to add in his legacy defining wins over prime Joshua, and in the Vlad rematch.
It was godawful, agreed - the people painting it as some kind of beacon of boxing and an outclassing of the old champ are deluded, it was a filthy spoil-fest where by neither fighter was remotely entertaining. And yet... Wlad still had the right to come back and do something different, set the record straight - and there's a very real possibility that with a proper camp and less distractions that he would've done so, at the very least there's a good chance he'd have won given how close their bout was. Nobody wants to watch it, but it's still valuable data to prove it wasn't a fluke.
We know it wasn't a fluke, they "fought" for 12 rounds. Wlad had every advantage. He did have the right, they agreed on a rematch, but had the rematch happened, with Fury untrained and in the midst of a mental breakdown, I'm not exactly sure how valuable the data would be.
We absolutely don't know it wasn't a fluke. Perhaps in the condition and mental head space they were in on that exact night, we can say it wasn't a fluke... But that's as far as it goes. Wlad not being in the best place for that fight is very well documented - call it excuses if you want, but I certainly don't have much confidence that Fury would've won a rematch. About as good as the data of Fury winning when Wlad was going through personal problems, perhaps?
How many times have you posted the same absurd speculation about Vlad's "condition" going into the fight with Fury? It's insane. All this to try to hide the fact that Fury has the better win over Vlad compared to Joshua. You are truly a dedicated fan.
And yet I can't stand Joshua... Some dedicated fan Honestly, there are plusses and minuses to both their wins over Wlad and I generally rate them about even. Not everyone has an agenda - don't be so ridiculous, it's not a good look.
Wlad was the A side, the defending champion and had everything his way. He had 12 rounds the same as Fury and he couldn't and he couldn't make the required adjustments.