Tyson Fury's top 5 wins (top 10)

To my understanding it was a contracted rematch. I may be incorrect about that but thought so.
2 judges felt there was only 3 rounds in it

Just so I understand your thought process, are you suggesting rematches shouldn't happen unless the fights are razor thin?

Should rematches happen if a fighter does or doesn't get stopped?


Do you feel some of the below rematches shouldn't have happened

Holyfield - tyson
Tyson - ruddock
Fury - Chisora

Just trying to understand what your disagreement is as rematches can give different results and often a long standing champion gets an opportunity

 

Boring fights where the result isn't controversial. That's where i cba with rematches.

So like Haney vs Kambosos. Pointless.

 

Wilder
Wlad
Chisora
Whyte
Cunningham


Wilder over Wlad because Wlad was old and didn't even put up a fight. Wlad on paper sure but that's the only way you rate that fight above the Wilder fight. If you actually watch them there's no argument Wlad put up a better fight or on a better show.

Chisora one at the time wasn't a bad fight at all. This is the k2 era, all fights are boring AF.


Whyte's okay


Cunningham was pretty good actually.




Fury has a shitty resume.

 

He gets hammered for his res as though he ducked big fights, but people don't usually look at the details.

Firstly, he just retired at 35/36 and fan faves like Joyce and Zhang hadn't even fought anyone yet by that age.
He missed 3 years being an obese man and also Covid took at least a year or so away, so make that 4 years that went missing.
He signed to fight Haye and it fell through twice which took another year and that was not his fault at all.
That's 5 years now that you can subtract from his career.
AJ dodged him a number of times.

Point is, he fought quite a lot of top fighters in a short space of time when you consider he fought Wlad, Wilder x3 and Usyk x 2 in basically just over a handful of years. He won 4/6 of those big fights.

A better question for people is 'who should Fury have fought to give him a proper resume?' And you'll discover that there weren't too many people around that could have added much at the time and were prepared to fight, keeping in mind that characters like Zhang and Joyce and Dubious and Croatian were nowhere to be seen or being 'developed'.

 

He could have fought AJ in April 2019 but he chose Tom Schwarz instead

 

He could have fought AJ in April 2019, he could have fought someone with a pulse in December 2022 instead of Chisora, he could have fought someone in 2023 instead of Ngannou after ducking Usyk. And here, 3 occasions to put some proper names on his resume. Even if we discount 2020-21 as the covid years he wasted 20 months between April 2022 and December 2023 to mess around and duck anybody in sight to fight a MMA fighter.

 

1. Dethroned 2015 Wlad (biggest heavyweight win in over a decade, Ring's upset of the year in all weight classes, beat the No.1)
2. Dethroned 2020 Wilder (Fury scores Ring's fighter of the year for a second time, beat his No.1 rival)
3. Beat 2021 Wilder (Fury wins the fight of the year)
4. Beat 2014 Chisora (Chisora barely landed a glove and quit for the only time in his career)
5. Beat 2022 Whyte (Whyte barely landed a glove)

2011 Chisora, Cunningham, 2022 Chisora, Wallin and Kevin/Hammer currently round out the top 10.

It has to be noted that a 2017 Wlad is four loss Joshua's best win, 2020 Whyte is Povetkin's best win, 2012 Chisora is arguably both Vitali's best win and Haye's best win and Wallin/Hammer/Kevin round out the top 10's of Joshua, Povetkin and Vitali respectively.

 

You were saying recently that you felt Dubois should be next in line for Usyk
That wasn't the most interesting and had a conclusive finish where I'm not sure Dubois won any rounds

 

Are you saying that by 2012 Chisora was Vitalis best win full stop or just his best win in 2012?
When Vitali fought Chisora he was 1-2 in his last 3 fights and only had 17 fights
I think beating Undefeated Charr that year may have been viewed higher at that time

 

Yeah he shouldn't have had an immediate rematch for it. But since then he'll have beaten Miller, Hrgovic, Joshua and Parker back to back which makes him the most deserving contender by far.

 

I can agree that he has earned it even though I am not overly interested

What about Stivene/Wilder?
That had a rematch

I guess this is your personal opinion but to my knowledge I thought Fury / Wladimir was part of a contractual rematch, but as said, I could be wrong

 

Stiverne and Wilder was a pointless rematch also.

There was a contract. Fury retired for two years and was on a coke binge so a rematch would have been a walkover for Wlad wouldn't it.

Doesn't detract from Fury and what he achieved though.

 

Fury wasn't retired when the rematch was due to happen
I believe he postponed the date due to an injury even at one point
Then retired after postponing

Interesting how you correctly note that if Fury had have fought Wladimir at a time during being retired that he wouldn't be at his best, which I agree with, but you don't feel it possible to comprehend what @BubblesUK was saying about Wladimir not possibly being at his best to see how he would have performed in a rematch

Of course it doesn't detract from what Fury has achieved
Never said otherwise

 

Well when A side, who calls every single shot, says they weren't at their best post fight I dismiss it.

Fury didn't fight for two years after beating Wlad