Fury ducking Aj

Fair enough

 

Nobody really pushed for it before he announced his retirement.

AJ is coming off of a bad loss.

 

I think they did
It was talked about

Joshua called Fury out after the Wladimir win

An offer was made for Joshua to defend when Fury came out of retirement

They were supposed to fight but Fury fought Wilder a third time

Fury gave a quick offer to Joshua when Joshua lost to Usyk the 2nd time

And finally

https://talksport.com/boxing/2744719/turki-alalshikh-anthony-joshua-next-tyson-fury-deontay-wilder/

 

I know mate.

I meant recently.

 

Tick tock

 

You think a fighter going into hostile territory, twice, as a 4 or 5 to 1 underdog is cherry picking. You probably need to reread sentences a few times to comprehend them. I can't help you with that.

Thanks for even more insight about the mindset of Vladimir, a pro boxer who you don't know and have never met. Glad you know about his personal life and how that made him forget how to box. Really great stuff coming from one of the top minds of this forum. I may reach out later to see if you have any theories on weigh ins and what a fighter looking away first means for the result of the fight.

Name me a HW in the last 15 years not named Usyk who has gone into enemy territory as an underdog to win a belt.

 

The link was recent
Literally less than a month ago which dispels what you were saying
That's not me, that's the link which shows you are not correct

 

I'm going to start by saying, don't misunderstand me as I rate Fury highly but I kind of see both points.
In some way I can where the comments come from in that
Where Fury has everything to gain and nothing to lose the fights seem to happen
So challenging champions away where If he won, he wins world titles away, but if he loses he was an underdog willing to take a chance.
It's not quite but almost a win win situation with the fans and media alike.

I don't know if there is. Though I'm not sure how many HW champions there has been.
It's a great accomplishment
No question

I think going back to where I see fans disputing and making comments like cherry pick (which I don't like)

I do feel however that he (Fury) likes things to be a certain way when taking certain fights like assuring he is ready and focused rather than just going into them at a set time

For example. Where Fury has everything to gain and nothing to lose the fights seem to happen
So challenging champions away where If he won, he wins world titles away, but if he loses he was an underdog willing to take a chance

When he had tough fights where he had something to lose (world title) there seemed to be delays. I don't know if that is coincidental or not.

Rematch with Wladimir (when supposed to be defending titles) in the UK was delayed and didn't happen

First defense against Wilder (when making first defence) was delayed

Defence/unification with Usyk was delayed

I think he relinquished the British and Commonwealth titles when Price was the next in line but may be incorrect

The delays I think gives someone time to do things on their own terms and delay to suit them rather than taking tough defence after tough defence which creates more opportunity to lose or have slip ups

I don't think there was any delay in the defences against Chisora or Whyte that I can recall

It's not a slur as I rate Fury very highly and think he is an incredible HW
I am a bigger fan of Fury than I am Joshua but do wonder if it must be tougher to make continuous defences against top 10 rated competition than pick and choosing the right fight at the right time, delaying and not defending the titles as often
If you see what I mean?

With a fight against Joshua at this time I think there is alot to lose
Maybe timing will be everything
He called Joshua out at short notice when Joshua was coming off his 2nd loss to Usyk, so wonder if it may come down to the fight happening at the right time for Fury
I don't imagine Fury taking the fight next after the losses to Usyk

 

Fury was the one blocking it with his silly demands and deadlines, watch his Netflix series

 

I initially said that nobody has really pushed for it recently.

You then spoke about things that had happened in the past.

Yes, the link you sent was recent.

But that was just an enquiry.

Nobody has been pushing for it.

Even before Tyson had fought Usyk again, there was talk of AJ either rematching Dubois, or possibly having a big fight in Africa.

At present, there is no demand for a Tyson-AJ fight.

The fans aren't clamouring for it.

AJ, Hearn and Turki arent pushing for it.

It looks like AJ will be fighting Bakole, which if true, would be a mistake in my opinion.

The fans, especially the casuals, need an impressive performance from AJ, in order to become enthusiastic again about the fight.

The reason Hearn hasn't really pushed for it, is because AJ is coming off of a very bad loss.

 

From what I know, AJ called his bluff and agreed to everything.

It was Hearn who knew that Anthony was vulnerable and not mentally or physically prepared for the dates that Tyson had requested.

 

The link was recent
It can't be pushed for if someone chose to retire and decided to not go to the ring event

I think the fans would like to see it even if a bit late
You going to tell me you don't think it would sell out or be box office
Oh dear

 

It wasn't pushed for BEFORE Tyson retired.

Of course it would sell.

Khan-Brook sold.

But it's better for the fight interest to be reignited again.

An AJ back in the spotlight, coming off of an impressive win will do that.

 

And Fury called off the negotiations.

 

It wouldn't have been pushed for when undisputed was on the table but there must have been some interest as Fury tried to make the fight at short notice instead of wanting to go straight for undisputed

It wouldn't and couldn't be pushed when contracted rematches were scheduled
Even you can work that out

Now let's try another way
Tell me, what fight do you think would be bigger for Joshua and fury at the moment considering where both are in their careers?
Give yourself time