Otto Wallin's Performance Was Shameful

You guys think that he was paid to lose? Seems a bit strange considering that Chisora has no future in that business anyway

 

I think so. His future doesn't matter, what matters is he makes money. He's got a pretty dedicated fan base, so they're trying to milk him while he's on his retirement tour. Losing while on a final run like this would derail it a bit, since he so shot. Wallin had been grifting off his performance against Fury, and has since been found out. If Wallin had won, it would have ended their little gravy train. Wallin probably dips out now, and maybe got some unmarked envelope money to sweeten it for him.

 

I think a lot of Joshua fans would like this to be true.

 

I've seen him look much better than that before

 

Why pay him to lose when he had little chance of winning anyway, seems redundant. They were paying him regardless to show up and fight and he was chosen because he was no real threat to Chisora.

I simply think Wallin came in with a losers mentality. He never tried to win, not because of some under the table payment to ensure he lost, but because he didn't believe he could win and was simply showing up to get paid, hang in there and not get hurt. Plenty of journeymen do this regularly and simply try to put a good enough showing to get another payday further down the line.

 

Did the same against Fury. It's basically his special move in boxing. Pretty pathetic given he has so little else to offer.

 

There's no waythe fight was fixed - the risk/reward ratio was too great. What we saw was what happens on every card; the fighter who sells the tickets wins, the opponent does just enough to make it look vaguely competitive and ensure that they get another fight. There's a few British prospects who could be pitched at trying to stop the man who went 12 rounds with Del.

 

No chance it was fixed with how much Wallin was trying to exploit that cut. Kind of pointless given the hometown advantage there — there was ZERO chance that fight was being stopped on that cut unless Chisora’s eyeball itself was falling out. Y’all see how much the Brit crowds love Chisora? They’d have rioted had that fight been stopped.

Wallin showed up with a journeyman’s mentality. He showed up expecting to lose but collect a decent paycheck off the guy who can sell a fight. Then he got lucky due to that cut and did try to capitalize on it, and when it became clear that wasn’t gonna happen, he just gave up again.

 

The referee quite quickly judged the cut as coming from a head clash (strangely, I don't recall any replays of this), so it would go to the score cards either way. In that light, I'm not sure Wallin "working the cut" is strong evidence against him being paid to lose. Also, I did think the blood and thunder speech (drained of all emotion) in his corner proceeding the final round was a little odd. The overselling by the commentary went to the point of absurdity also (it reminded me of Shawn Michael's infamous selling of Hulk Hogan)---maybe it was a wink to the audience at home.

This fight went very similar to the Washington fight. Both looked like they were there to keep the gravy train rolling on the Chisora testimonial tour and almost make sure a shot Chisora got through the 12.

 

You guys are giving Wallin too much credit he fought the same way vs Gassiev and won by accident. He’s absolutely awful throwing pitty patty punches only in all his fights looking scared to death in there.

 

Scared of a 41-year-old Chisora who is blowing out his arse and tripping over his own feet after 4? Yet he was going-after prime-Fury in their fight... We shouldn't forget Wallin out landed ATG-win Klitschko and future-HOFer Wilder combined.

He's gone from a guy who did that, to out fighting Breazeale, being "ducked" by Whyte, to then beating Gassiev clean and wide (which was easy to predict, btw).

Something doesn't add up. He didn't throw a single cross and dusted the shoulder of a Chisora who was gassed on the ropes at points. It was the same thing for Washington, wh can box well enough and has a degree of power, but he threw nothing with venom against a knackered Chisora.

Either way, it isn't good for Fury or Wilder when these PBC guys keep putting in these performances against a shot to bits Chisora. I never thought the American circuit was particularly good. But I don't want to believe it was this bad. It undermines the whole era

 

He’s useless. Didn’t throw a punch vs AJ and didn’t throw a punch vs Chisora. Got soundly beaten by Fury with the only reason panic setting in for Fury in that fight was the cut. Not because he was struggling with Wallin.

 

Team Fury clearly disagree as it cost Ben Davison his job.

Also Wallin finished the stronger of the two in the Fury fight and hurt him again in the 12th. I don't disagee with you that Fury clearly won on the cards (round by round), but as mentioned the punch stats (and Fury's face) tell their own story as well

 

Fury left because he wanted to develop a more aggressive style to be able to knock Wilder out so the Kronk gym was the place for that.

On Wallin his father died before the Fury fight so he said at the time he wanted to emulate Buster Douglas whose mother died before the Mike Tyson fight so maybe it takes that much for him to show courage and actual fight in the ring. Because outside of that fight he fights in a monotone way.

Wallin has decent fundamentals but clearly lacks the intangibles to be anything decent. No fire, spite or courage whenever he steps in the ring. No ego, happy to be clowned around by other fighters and play the role of a jester like he did vs Chisora.

 

I remember things a bit differently. John Fury wanted rid of Davison because of the performance against Wallin. It doesn't really make sense to switch coaches otherwise. Fury in the eyes of many won the first Wilder fight. He was in theory fitter and also had the backing of ESPN, so he could likely beat Wilder even if it went to the cards in a second fight under Davison. Now, granted he wouldn't have done the same job on him as he did under Sugar Hill, but doesn't mean he would have lost. It was when he nearly lost to Wallin that fans started to make Wilder the favourite for fight 2 (though I might be mistaken on that). Plus, had Fury been given the decision in fight 1, it's likely Fury would have been fighter of the year, and Davison trainer of the year. As I say, from what I recall at the time, it was very much that team Fury weren't happy with the performance against Wallin specifically that caused the change.

I think you make a fair point though about Wallin's father, though. At the same time, Buster Douglas was a known quantity in the division and someone (as I understand it) Tyson's team had actually been weary of. That again may suggest Wallin might be better than you are giving him credit for.

But I do agree he seemed happy to play the clown against Chisora... almost too happy (which is the issue some of us have, I guess)