Fury ducking Aj

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nobody has pushed for it, and nobody has been requesting it, since Dubois crushed AJ.

    His stock has fallen massively.

    Boxing is a ruthless business.

    You know this.

    It would still sell, if they were both coming off of 3 losses each.

    The point is, if it’s to be made, it has to be made at the right time, to make as much business as possible.

    They could make it now.

    But it would be better if both fighters are in the spotlight in a positive way.

    People will buy it, but nobody is going to eagerly anticipate it after Dubois has just destroyed AJ.

    AJ needs to come back.

    Ideally, with an impressive win.

    Then everybody will push for it.

    At the moment, the demand/interest isn’t there.

    If Tyson hadn’t retired, there would still be no demand for an AJ fight.
     
  2. bailey

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    Nobody's is pushing it except for the details on the link I sent you from less than a month ago
    The winner would be in the spotlight

    I think once again you are trying to base facts on your personal opinions

    Do you not understand, it won't be pushed or can't be pushed if someone has retired and not fighting anymore
    But it is the biggest fight for both at thus time
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’m not going around in circles with you.

    I watch about 20 media videos per week, from all different channels.

    I go out of my way to know who’s said what.

    I have seen your link.

    Again, it’s not in demand right now.

    Hearn is a ruthless businessman. Yet he’s not pushed for it.

    Turki would like to see it and he’s made enquiries. But he’s not really pushed for it.

    AJ isn’t pushing for it.

    Hardly and fans that I’ve seen, are pushing for it.

    Even the casuals don’t seem that bothered.

    That loss to Dubois was a bad loss, and it’s fresh in their minds. You only have to read numerous threads on various forums, as well as on social media.

    The TS is saying that Tyson is ducking the fight.

    But at the moment, there just isn’t a fight to duck.

    It’s not like AJ was in the ring after Usyk, challenging him etc.

    AJ is currently out of the spotlight, as many people think that he’s now finished.

    His reputation has taken a huge hit.

    Hopefully, we’ll still see it at some point.

    That’s all that I have to say on the matter.
     
  4. Special one

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    Come on Fury ya big dosser, stop ducking the body builder. Get up there!!
     
  5. bailey

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    https://www.skysports.com/boxing/ne...mbley-stadium-for-potential-summer-mega-fight

    https://talksport.com/boxing/2744719/turki-alalshikh-anthony-joshua-next-tyson-fury-deontay-wilder/

    https://www.tntsports.co.uk/boxing/...-eubank-jr-conor-benn_sto20070170/story.shtml

    https://www.tntsports.co.uk/boxing/...ght-2025-frank-warren_sto20078741/story.shtml

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-anthony-joshua-news-34663920

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    You are not debating it with me. You are arguing with yourself
    See the links and rest easy
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha!


    What??


    Two links say the exact same thing.


    One of them is one that you’ve already sent me.


    One is from David Price. Ha!


    The key one is from Frank Warren, Tyson’s PROMOTER, who says “HE HASN’T EVEN SPOKEN TO HIM ABOUT IT”


    I will rest easy.
     
  7. bailey

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    You are skirting around and trying to avoid and divert, which is not unusual

    First link reads

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    It does say more

    2nd link you have seen and still struggling to comprehend

    3rd link mentions

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    4th link notes
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    Now you say there is no demand, but that's certainly not the case
    You say casuals aren't interested and that certainly doesn't appear to be the case
    You say it's not being pushed but yet it looks like someone is possibly trying to do something if saying about a stadium being reserved
    Joshua is vocal about it

    As said, you are arguing with yourself
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Same old Bailey.

    You’ll argue something to death.


    I said that nobody is REALLY PUSHING for it.

    Yes, they’re hopeful that it will happen, but they’re not really pushing for it.


    The man’s OWN PROMOTER LITERALLY HASN’T spoken to him about it.

    Or are you just going to ignore that??


    There’s an interest, put NO PUBLIC DEMAND FOR IT.


    Read this forum.

    Read the other forums, if you’re interested.

    Look on social media.

    Watch the various YT channels.


    Hopefully, it’ll happen.

    But there isn’t a buzz for it, where the fans are all clamouring for it.


    Now this is MY LAST POST on the subject.


    This will be MY LAST POINT:

    Even IF there was a HUGE DEMAND for it, Tyson cannot be accused of DUCKING the fight.

    If the fight never happens, then he can be accused.

    But right at this moment, it does NOT constitute as being a duck.


    The thread was completely unnecessary.


    Now if you want the last word, then be my guest.


    It doesn’t matter how many links you send, or highlight, you haven’t proven anything.


    The fact that the man’s own promoter hasn’t spoken to him about it, tells you that not everybody is pushing for it where there’s a huge demand.

    That is it.

    There is nothing more to say.


    I’ll catch you on another thread.
     
  9. bailey

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    Of course he hasn't spoken to him about it
    He retired
    I can see that you are struggling to grasp what is on the links
     
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  10. Loudon

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    Oh Bailey.

    Seeing as though it’s you, you can have one last reply.

    Only because it’s you though, and we haven’t argued/debated for an age.


    One of your links literally says that Tyson has RETIRED, but Turki is going to speak to him soon.

    It literally says that.

    So Turki is going to contact him.


    Now if Frank was REALLY pushing for it, then he’d have spoken to Tyson about it already.

    Just because he’s retired, it doesn’t mean that Frank can’t talk to him.

    They have a close relationship with each other.

    They’ve worked together for a long time.

    Frank’s spoken to him before during his other retirements.

    He isn’t banned from contacting him.

    He can contact him at any point.


    So if Turki can contact him to try and talk him into it, then so can Frank.

    Frank hasn’t done that though, because despite what you say, not EVERYONE is really pushing for it.


    Don’t exhaust this any longer.


    Again, hopefully the fight will happen.


    Let’s just leave it at that.


    If you reply, I’m afraid that you won’t get one in return.


    The conversation is over.
     
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  11. bailey

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    You have shot yourself in the foot
    You have the links saying opposite to everything you claim and then say Frank isn't pushing for it. Well he certainly wouldn't if his fighter didn't want it
    He wouldn't try and push for a fight if his fighter didn't want it at that time
    You gave all these long posts with little substance and ended up almost saying Fury's team aren't pushing for it which was the jist of the thread you were disputing
    Lol


    Personally I think it will possibly happen only if the circumstances align which is another thread
     
  12. ruffryders

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    Frank not talking to him about it doesn’t prove nobody is interested in it, just that frank isn’t. (One of the main members of fury team)

    if this is really true
     
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  13. Loudon

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    Yeah.

    I didn’t say that nobody was interested.

    I just said that not everyone was really pushing for it, and that there was no big public demand for it.

    Obviously, we all hope that it happens.

    I’d watch it if they were both coming off of 3 losses each.

    I watched Khan vs Brook.

    I even watched the worst fight that I’ve ever seen - Roy vs Hopkins 2.

    Bailey will argue to the death about anything.

    I’m not interested in a battle of having the last word.

    But what he’s said just confirms what I said.

    If Tyson’s own promoter hasn’t even enquired about it, then I’m right in saying that it’s not been really pushed for by everyone.

    He then said that Frank hasn’t called him because he’s retired.

    But so what?

    Turki is planning on calling him despite him announcing his retirement.

    So there’s no reason why Frank can’t, if he wanted to.

    Him being retired doesn’t stop an enquiry.

    Tyson and Frank are close.

    They can speak to each other at any time.

    I personally think it will happen. But I’d rather see AJ have an impressive performance first, even if it’s a low level tune up.
     
  14. ruffryders

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    Or franks not interested in it.
    Or Tyson’s not and he’s covering for him.

    it’s all irrelevant anyway.

    If it happens it happens
     
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  15. bailey

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    This is why @Loudon tied his own self up and tries to accuse others of arguing when he is struggling.
    The TS was suggesting that Fury may be wanting to avoiding Joshua
    Loudon says nobody is calling for it and sites Fury and his team as not calling for it, when if Fury didn't want to take the fight (as the ts is suggesting), would of course not be calling for it
    Loudon conveniently doesn't acknowledge that Joshua is saying he wants the fight

    Personally I am not saying anything of the sort, just posting the links and letting Loudon, who I do like as a poster, argue with himself