Archie Moore’s real age

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Devon, Feb 13, 2025.

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When do you think he was born?

  1. 1916

    66.7%
  2. 1913

    33.3%
  1. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On boxrec it said he was 38 for the Marciano fight, on Wikipedia it said he was 41, I was wondering where the confusion between sources arose from, and I investigated and amongst doing so, I think I’ve found the conclusion and here it is


    • Moore claimed he was born December 13, 1916, but his mother said he was born December 13, 1913. Moore joked, "I have given this a lot of thought and have decided that I must have been three when I was born." The U.S. Census record from 1920 seems to put an end to the mystery. "Archie L. Wright" is listed as a nephew in the household of Cleveland Moore and was three years and two months old on the date of the census — January 2, 1920.
    So this suggests he was most likely in fact younger than his mother said and he was born 3 years after she said, which would mean he was 38 in the Marciano rather than 41.

    What do you think?
     
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  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    It makes sense. I think he was probably 38 too but it made his feats seem even more impressive if people thought he was older.
     
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  3. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It also makes Rocky's wins against him look a lil better.
     
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Came across my great grandma obituary the other day and she was born in 1916. Her and Archie Moore would be the same age, if he was born in 1916 and not 1913.
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    wins?
     
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  6. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I got my old guys he whipped mixed up. I was thinking of Asbury Park Joe
     
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  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’d be more convinced if the census listed the child as Archie L. “Young Mongoose” Wright.
     
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  8. clum

    clum Member Full Member

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    There have been some wild theories about boxers' ages postulated on this site, but not for one second am I buying that Archie Moore was this dude's great-grandmother.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    If he was born in 1913 then that would have made him 50 when he fought Ali.
     
  10. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He looked it.
     
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    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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  12. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ring magazine reported on this census discovery many years ago. But also shown light on another disagreement Moore had with his Mother's memory. Not only did Moore state he was born in '16 rather than '13, but he also said he was born in (I think) Collinsville, Illinois, whereas, his mom said Benoit, Miss. Digging proved that, although Ma was wrong about the date, she was right about where Archie was born.
     
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