Which is greater,Dariusz Michaczewski or Chris John?

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  1. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Two very good long reigning champs that definitely deserved the HOF better than Paz, who's better?
     
  2. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good question. Michalczewski had the longer title reign while Chris John has a win over Juan Manuel Marquez that trumps any top victories from Michalczewski. People see Chris John's victory over Marquez as controversial but I recall the fight being very close that could have been scored a draw.

    Michalczewski probably rates higher due to his longer title defenses but him not facing RJJ does hurt him to some extent.
     
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  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    The win over Marquez and the series with Juarez is good enough to put John ahead. Too bad both guys spent most of their prime years feasting on crap.
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I thought it was Jones that didn't want the fight?
     
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  6. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Michaczewski. He was THE Champion of his division (unlike John), tied the record for most defenses in his class (he's no Foster, however), and looks to have fought better opposition overall. He also won a trinket in a division north, for whatever that's worth.

    John didn't fight many active top-10 guys, never became "the man" (nor did he try), and didn't venture northward.
     
  7. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've got Chris John. DM was a long reigning cgamp but he didn't fight Jones or Tarver who were without question the best in that division. John fought and beat a prime Marquez within a couple of years Marquez beating Barrera, Pacquiao, Cassamyor, Diaz and Juarez.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have an asterisk over the Marquez win though I felt Marquez clearly won it by a few points but I should go back and watch it sometime to do a proper scorecard.

    But my general feeling is that Marquez did enough to get the nod.
     
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  9. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a close fight but I side with all three judges that had it for John.
     
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  10. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Quite close fight,but it thought John edged it with his distance management,he didn't let Marquez counterpunch enough.
     
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