Chisora Greater than Wilder?

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Chisora or Wilder

  1. Chisora

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  2. Wilder

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've been arguing about Wilder for years. I'm tired the topic and Wilder, too. But sometimes you just have to inject a little common sense before going back to ignoring it.
     
  2. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    If we play devils advocate, we could rip his resume to bits too.

    actually let’s ask, with losses to Danny Williams, and mcneeley or whoever, is Chisora better than Mike Tyson? He lost to guys on Chisora level.

    so what he beat an old retired Holmes and who else?
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah let's just ignore the bulk of Tysons resume for old Holmes. Chisora does not compare, he is Trevor Berbick level at best, and Chisoras prime was during the Klitschko era plus the beginning of this era, which makes this even more pathetic. This is no golden age like many want to make it out to be
     
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  4. TheOldTimer

    TheOldTimer Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder was an undefeated destroyer with the WBC title (40-0 39KO) with a menacing presence who took the imagination away from the fans who longed for an American knockout artist with charisma for quite some time. He fought Fury to a draw and almost knocked him out and came away with his belt. For these reasons he is a greater boxer than Chisora who was never a phenomenal boxer.
     
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  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tony tucker, Pinklon thomas, Razor Ruddock, James Smith, Old Holmes, Frank Bruno, Michael spinks would all beat chisora

    tony tucker, berbick, Tillis etc are some decent skilled guys too. The 80's hw scene was much better than the dross around now. It is underrated
     
  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Berbick might beat him, Bruno WOULD beat him and a prime Razor Ruddock would smash his face in

    No HW today is able for an 80s Tyson, no chance. He would absolutely batter Dubois and Joshua and imo he'd also stop Usyk within 6 rounds
     
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  7. OddR

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    I guess Wilder is sort of part that era and so is Fury in a way. Forget how long these guys have been around. It's only AJ of those 3 who really is completely not part of it.
     
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  8. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would say it's more meaningless and even silly to question if a journeymen was greater than a world titlist. Re: knockout: Chisora's first "KO" loss was to a very fast wild swinging gunslinger where he was clipped. This is all Wilder is known for, clipping fighters with something fast they don't see or anticipate.

    Wilder as unrefined as he is delivered his shots, especially the right hand very fast from weird angles, that even a defensive wizard had trouble anticipating. And against a come forward person who's durable but stoppable, not very defensively responsible, and that at every point in his career chose to follow punchers and labor around the ring......................Wilder is little he's been bullied around the ring a lot and can still get his shots off, he doesn't even need room to stretch someone. So yeah we can absolutely infer this, this is all from his resume and Wilder's.
     
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  9. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    No He’s not. He turned pro same time as fury and they both won titles same year. Stop repeating lies to cover hate.
     
  10. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I know you have and so have I for a short while. It gets tiring as the same idiots just peddle hatred. They are blinded by it and it just continues regardless of being proven to just be hatred talking
     
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  11. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I’m playing devils advocate here….

    so, I think Chisora was better than Tyson.
    Chisora beat or should have beat guys better than Bruno, bonecrusher and the lhw coming up. Chisora gave usyk a run for his money.
     
  12. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I see the point you are making but Wilder did lose to Fury twice, would lose to Vitali, would lose to Usyk and he did lose to Parker though when Wilder was still undefeated I thought he would beat Parker

    Wilder had the title and plenty of power and was willing to face Fury but his win column leaves a lot to be desired. Coincidentally though Chisora has several of the same names on there
     
  13. Mark Anthony

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    Neither one of them was ever great, nor did they have great careers.
     
  14. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Tyson was far better than Chisora in every way, there`s no comparison, Tyson was twice as quick, twice as skilled and would never have lost to the fighters the way that Chisora did, Chisora is not a world class fighter and gassed v Usyk after six rounds.
     
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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Kinda already relied to this with my .ost recent proper post on here