Artur Asilbekovich Beterbiev vs Dmitrii Yurievich Bivol II & Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Israil Madrimov RBR.

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  1. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's 40. He's been boxing a long time.

    He trains like a maniac and is always in shape.

    That takes its toll.

    I would not be surprised if his next fight is his last.

    Reflecting on the fight last night, we saw two very high level, closely matched competitors in there.

    The difference being one was just a little "fresher" than the other.

    It's not easy for any 40-year old boxer to chase down a mover like Bivol for 12 rounds.
     
  2. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t think he confidently felt he won the first fight, and realized that there’s not a lot he could’ve done differently in the 2nd fight to win more convincingly.
     
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  3. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he’s already made enough to retire in luxury from the last two. Pretty easy to see him thinking “enough already”. But, with another massive payday calling, if the man has a family, also pretty easy to see him being like “ugh, ok, I’ll do this one last time, see if I can avenge this loss”.
     
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  4. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep. I think you are right.
     
  5. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah, second fight he did the one thing he could have changed — he went balls out right from the opening bell. Wasn’t enough. He couldn’t keep up the pace, while Bivol was able to keep it up AND adapt to what Beterbiev was doing. I’m not really sure how Beterbiev can win the rubber match.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    #2, behind only Usyk vs. Fury I. :deal:
     
  7. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    None of these pretenders should be allowed to call themselves champions until they face Janibek.
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    That's exactly the point isnt it.

    Adames is the best fighter for Janibek to take. And if it doesn't happen Adames has to fight someone else in the division.
     
  9. peter_uk

    peter_uk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As someone who was backing Bivol, I was very worried during the midrounds and I thought there was a very real chance of Beterbiev getting the stoppage. The way Bivol turned things round during the second half of the fight was masterful; genuinely I have not had so much awe for the skills on display since watching peak Loma or Usyk. I would also like to acknowledge Bivol's supreme conditioning; he absorbed so many shots to the body from Beterbiev that I'm sure would have wilted anyone else in the LHW division, yet Bivol still remained sprite to the very end.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: Yes

    Sure he's old and it was a bad loss for him but, that being said, the much younger Mak and Sanchez were both stopped by Kabayel's body assault and it took way less body shots to get them out of there than it did Big Bang. That was one of the most vicious and sustained body assaults I've ever seen and it was inevitable he was going to fold under it at some point

    And most HWS are not going to be able to stand up to Big Bang's power like Kabayel did. Kabayel is an excellent fighter
     
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  11. Serge

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  12. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    I feel like Beterbiev could never establish his jab range. It was always coming up a little short no matter what he just couldn't find a home for it and he would need to really overextend and knew how risky that would be. Its like he realized he shouldn't jump in and it left him just looking lost wandering around unable to adjust. You could see him just standing there at points like "Now what?"
     
  13. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Didn't get to post during the RBR so I just wanted to get my scores on record.

    Callum Smith over Josh Buatsi 115-113
    Agit Kabayel - Zhilei Zhang 47-47 before the knockout
    Vergil Ortiz Jr. - Israil Madrimov 114-114
    Carlos Adames over Hamzah Sheeraz 115-113
    Shakur Stevenson 80-72 over Josh Padley before the corner stoppage.
    Joseph Parker 10-9 before the corner stoppage.
    Dmitrii Bivol - Artur Beterbiev 114-114
     
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  14. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol employed the same tactic he used against Canelo: staying in range, absorbing leading punches and then unloading flurries and not allowing Beterbiev to follow up or reset. While dangerous and painful, it was clearly effective.
     
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  15. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    This was billed as perhaps the best boxing card ever. The five scheduled fights were very enjoyable and made for great boxing.

    That being said, they would have been better off taking the late replacement bouts off the televised portion of the card. While Padley showed grit and fight the bout with Stevenson was a one-sided farce. Bakole was a farce all by himself. That fight should not have taken place.

    All in all a very good card with a fantastic main event.