Power = Speed X Mass

Good delivery is very important, the opponents positioning, eyes and guard etc all play a part in the power effectiveness

 

I'm convinced that punching power eludes scientific research. There just isn't any rhyme or reason to it. Some guys hit like trucks with love taps, some guys can't punch a hole through wet paper with full leverage. It just is what it is.

 

Technique and punch placement are just as important.

 

Good thread. Rare to have one that doesn’t end up bashing fighters.

 

Theres also "heavy hands" which can't be measured by the amount of mass you're swinging around. Thats the secret sauce to insane power and can't be truly measured.

 

If it were a single object like say, a bullet, then the simple equation mass x speed would be sufficient. However, a punch thrown by a human being is exponentially more complex due to the kinesthetic chain within the body that transfer the forces, and the relationship of those forces to the opponent. A punch landed never occurs as a singular action but the culmination of many variables such as positioning, balance, placement, speed, angle of attack, the reaction of the opponent, etc etc

 

There is power generation, and then there is delivery.

Delivery is a lot of skeletal structure and the likes.

 

Oh no here he’s goes again.

 

What’s your problem?

 

Because you go on and on and on.

 

Wilder has heavy hands. Literally - because he's had 4 or 5 surgeries to repair his hands. Each time, adding metal rods. You can research the metal in Wilder's hands. It's like internal brass knuckles

 

Because power isn't just speed x mass. That doesn't remotely begin to cover it, and it's insulting whenever someone brings this up. There's a whole host of other factors to consider, from timing to accuracy, technique, angle of shots and so on.

The thing that's most overlooked and little understood is energy transference. This is the 'it' factor which many fans struggle to comprehend, and which leads to cornball lines like 'God given power' to explain it away.

Simply put it's all about how much energy a fighter generates that is actually transferred to the opponent, and how much is lost. There are a ton of leech points where energy can be lost in the human body, the joints being an obvious one, but also stuff like how much your bones bend upon impact to how much grip your shoes have. Whenever fights seem to possess power despite lacking speed or putting much into their shots it's almost always down to their high bone density, joint thickness, tendon strength, and other things that can minimise how much energy is lost on impact. Look at Foreman or Liston or even a lesser guy like Virchis (vid below). All massive, powerful, thickset men who were able to punch through their targets as if they weren't even there like a girder being swung at a human skull.

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Even things like how hard you can form a fist or how hard you can hit without breaking or badly bruising it can have an impact on power. That's why I suspect a lot of historically 'heavy handed' men have also had large hands and dense joints. Less likely to break.

 

Inputting into a conversation and responding to people is an issue in a discussion thread????

There’s a few of us discussing something that got quite a few likes, so some people must like the discussions.

Can’t you just put me on ignore if you don’t want to read my input in the 2 conversations I’m involved in?

 

I would more call it “argued and lectured everyone about whether putting on weight adds power “ and you also were accusing people of knowing **** about boxing who disagrees with you. So I could ignore you but I’d rather mock your no it all ass