Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Daniel Raphael Dubois II

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The Cat or Triple D (aka Dynamite)?

Poll closed Jul 19, 2025.
  1. Usyk on points

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  2. Usyk by stoppage

    46.3%
  3. Draw

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  4. Dubois on points

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  5. Dubois by stoppage

    18.4%
  1. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk already dominated him and will beat him again it might just take a bit longer I say Usyk by 11th round TKO
     
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  2. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    A totally unnecessary fight.
     
  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good fight, I’d rather see Kabayel but this is a good fight.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Dubois holds the other belt

    He is the biggest fight out there for Usyk

    He is a much more dangerous one for Usyk than J-Park who was coming off 2 safety-first points wins over a pair of senior citizens in the glass-jawed Dosser who is shot, Big Bang who 100% would've beaten him if he just let his hands go

    And his lone stoppage win came against a jet-lagged 315lb Bakole who was in far worse shape than we had been lead to believe and hadn't sparred for months which we were also lead to believe was not the case, and who literally arrived in Saudi on the day of the fight roughly about 18 hours max before he was due in the ring understandably looking utterly exhausted after he last minute rush and long flight

    Dubois is coming off three back to back stoppage wins, 2 over probably the most iron-jawed fighters in the division, and a spectacular KO defeat of former two-time champ AJ. When you're vying for a title shot or to be the next in line, as my good friend Dana White says, it's not just who you beat it's how you do it. Three back to back stoppage defeat

    Hrgovic>> the version of Big Bang J-Park beat and a stoppage over Hrgovic controversial or not>> a safety-first points win over Big Bang + getting dropped by him twice

    AJ >> The Dosser and sparking out AJ>> winning a a safety-first UD over a shot Dosser

    And a full camp Big Baby Miller >> a 2 day notice jet-lagged two day notice no camp no sparring woefully out of shape Bakole who arrived in Saudi the day of the fight utterly exhausted after a long flight


    The Bakole fight aside, J-Park is not a noted puncher, Dubois is one of the top 3 hardest punchers in the division and he sports a fearsome KO 95%.

    Yes, Usyk beat him before but you can't have it both ways where you cry baba tears re, the 'controversy' of the 'low blow' of their first fight and claim he was robbed of a KO victory against Usyk whilst simultaneously crying about Usyk rematching him. :facepalm:

    Dubois holds a legit belt

    It's a unification match up

    Dubois is the biggest fight out there for Usyk

    The most lucrative one

    People have been crying big baba tears about the low blow for years

    He climbed into the ring to call Usyk out on live TV and if Usyk fought someone else instead he would look like a female dog and these cry babies and haters would be now crucifying him for ducking the rematch

    Dubois is coming off three back to back KO or stoppage wins over teak-tough opponents and a former two-time world champion who many of these same people were predicting was reinvigorated and better than ever since hooking up with his new trainer and was going to KO Usyk this time. The same is being said about Dubois on his recent run of form

    And Dubois is a much more risky and dangerous fight for Usyk due to his savage power.

    That ''lesser'' more ''inexperienced'' version of Dubois already ''KO'd Usyk,'' right? Whereas, J-Park has literally either lodst or gone life and death against damn near every Brit he's fought and been taken the distance loads of times including many times by chinny fighters or ones who have been stopped numerous times

    Lost to AJ, was KO'd by Big Joe Joyce who could only beat Dubois on an eye injury and was was very fearful of Dubois' power which he was not of J-Park's, should be 1-1 with Chisora, lost to Whyte, arguably lost to Hughie Fury, and even CW Jack Massey rocked him and gave him a good fight

    Usyk at 38 y/o is playing Russian roulette with three bullets in the chamber against a much younger, much bigger, prime savage puncher like Dubois and two of them were loaded by Father Time, whereas, conversely, Usyk would toy with J-Park and the risk of him getting knocked out is far lower and he sure as hell ain't getting outboxed by him

    /thread

    Serge destroys
     
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  5. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Usyk should fight Parker, or if not, fight Kabayel. Both are more deserving than Daniel "Head Butt & Low Blow" Dubois.

    Dubois was clearly beaten the first fight, quitting after being hit with a jab, then he and old Fish Eyes, sore losers that they are, cried and cried claiming the low blow was above the belt.

    Then Dubois goes on to head butt Hrgovic to a TKO win, with the help of a dishonest Queensberry referee. Usyk being the generous honorable decent guy he is, gives Dubois the IBF belt.

    Then Dubois refuses VADA testing for his fight with Joshua, and looks stronger than before.
     
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  6. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    I think Dubois will come out early and aggressive he will look to "big man" and bully Usyk and fight dirty, but he will struggle to consistently find success - Dubois may land some good shots there and there. But, Usyk is too evasive and he can run around all night playing pinball with Dubois's head without having to worry about his stamina pretty much. It will be interesting to see whether Dubois will focus on the body more this time but he will have a super difficult time trying to tie Usyk up considering how good his footwork is and that is also why I think Kabayel may also struggle against Usyk.

    I see Dubois's gas tank being empty and Usyk will TKO him in the 11th round after a lot of chasing and missing from Dubois.

    This is HW boxing though, Dubois can knock Usyk out if he can land clean as Dubois is a very hard puncher.
     
  7. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    I agree - Dubois is a much tougher fight for Usyk than Parker. I really can't see Parker doing anything to Usyk - with Dubois, he has a lot more of a puncher's chance.

    Parker is very likeable and people have a lot of sympathy. He is on a very good run but people forget that Dubois has a serious belt and is also on a very good run if not better which it can be said it is.
     
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  8. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The great usyk is unstoppable
    You could combine the talents of mayweather, pacquiao, Leonard, Ali etc and you still wouldn't be close

    None of the above would have the talent to beat a fat lump who lost to an mma fighter making his debut (not to mention losing against mcdermott) or come from behind to beat the monstrous bellew or chisora, or to overcome an adonis who needed 2 tries to overcome a 400lb guy on the verge of a heart attack

    Other fighters are bum compared to usyk who connects with around 23% of his punches
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dubois makes it to the end, loses ten rounds in any sane universe, but loses by two rounds on the official cards.
     
  10. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All seem pointless fights except people want certain fighters to 'get their shot'.
    I doubt Parker can trouble Usyk, not enough power, chin is shaky now.
    The turk looks very slow and easy to outbox for someone like Usyk.
    Dubious is the most dangerous due to power but has already been beaten.
    None of them come close to Furyx2 and AJx2.
    Best chance of upset would be Dubious so it's a dumb fight to take at 38.
     
  11. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, I won't lose sleep over this fight.
    Stay in bed Vs stream this
    Stay in bed wins
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes, J-Park is one of the true gentlemen of the sport. That being said, even this much declined 38 y/o version of Usyk would school him

    Dubois' three fight run>> J-Park's. It's irrefutable
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Hearing murmurs that Usyk's final two bouts could be Dubois II for reunification and then Alex Pereira. That is absolute worst case scenario as far as I'm concerned. Any configuration where he faces either Kabayel or Parker (or better yet, the winner of a fight between them) is a "good outcome" - regardless of what he does with the other bout, even if he wastes it on an MMA sideshow.

    Anything else, isn't.

    Dubois II and Kabayel/Parker winner is ideal. (as then he can say he didn't leave a crumb as far as total unification goes)

    Kabayel/Parker (or Kabayel/Parker winner) and then Pereira is preferably to Dubois II and Pereira.
     
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  14. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    agreed, of he did the above he would have read out the division
    another pointless rematch and Alex is a terrible way to bow out

    I am hoping after Dubouis he fights Parker/Kabayel
     
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  15. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk by DQ as Dubois will be under the microscope of the ref this time and he won't be able to land that many low blows without any warning.