Who is the best out of the 4 kings

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Blg Man, Mar 5, 2025.


Who is the best

  1. Ryan Garcia

    15.5%
  2. Teofimo Lopez

    40.8%
  3. Shakur Stevenson

    32.4%
  4. Gervonta Davis

    11.3%
  5. Devin Haney

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Lopez has carved out a nice little career for himself.
     
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  2. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    4 divas more like. As much as I hate to say it, its Shakur. Whether you like his style or not he is likely to box the brains off the bunch of them. Tank is mentally (in particular) and physically on the slide. Teo and Haney bang overrated. Not quite sure what to make of Garcia tbh, he is like a wildcat.
     
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  3. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The fight was made when Leonard had observed during the Mugabi fight that Hagler was on the slide and felt he could beat him now after years of avoiding him.Hagler agreed to every single one of Leonard’s terms to get the fight made. Leonard as well as being a mainstream celebrity and the biggest Boxing celebrity since Ali was also a vey smart man and had secret fights behind closed doors leading up to the Hagler fight,with him also being a commentator he had access to Haglers fights to study,like I say a smart man. Leonard was never going to lose a points decision in Vegas and the debate still rages on as to who won the fight. What we do know is that Leonard was a couple of years younger and also the fresher fighter having only half the fights Hagler had,also during the fight he had received over 30 warnings for holding and never lost a single point,had Steele done his job that night the outcome may well have been completely different. Maybe like you say he didn’t separate himself but look at the level these guys were competing at,they where not called the 4 kings for nothing .
     
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  4. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    That's not quite right I'm afraid. Leonard didn't simply impose his demands upon Hagler for a big ring, for them to wear 12oz gloves, or for it to be a 12-rounder. Hagler accepted those demands so that he could have the bigger share of the purse despite Leonard being the more lucrative fighter because Hagler was too proud for his own good. And even though Hagler was past his best, he was still the much bigger man and natural MW fighting a welterweight who had been out of the ring for 3 years and who had been dealing with medical complications from his detached retina for years. Leonard had only fought a single bout in the last 5 years when he fought Hagler. Hagler fought a moronic fight both in and out of the ring by willingly conceding Leonard's demands for the pride of having "the champion's share" of the purse and by fighting orthodox for 4 rounds straight even when it became clear that Leonard had prepared for him to start ortho. Leonard was in much worse nick than Hagler imo regardless of how you score that fight.
     
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  5. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Teofimo is light years above the rest;

    Tank, Shakur and Ryan are all similar to each other;

    Haney is light years below the rest
     
  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I think you made a mistake. You listed the 5 jesters to the real kings. To answer your question, Sugar Ray Leonard.
     
  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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  8. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Another thing, didn't Leonard arguably beat all of them? And unlike Hagler he had two decisive wins rather than one.
     
  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Yeah, but SRL lost to Duran and arguably lost to Hearns. But, look at the company these men kept. No shame in having a loss to 1 or more out of this group.
     
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  10. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    He didn't even arguably beat all of them, he did beat all of them. He beat Benitez, Duran, Hearns, and Hagler and was the only one out of the quintet to do so. He was well past his best for the Hearns fight as well and there's no shame in losing to one of the most fearsome fighting machines in the sport's history in Montreal Duran.
     
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  11. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    So the two guys I think are the best, Davis and Haney, have the least votes. Obviously, none of you know anything. I'm kidding, of course. This is actually a really good poll question. All five of these guys have obvious positives and negatives.

    Depending on the category you use to rate, achievements, skills, career abilities, current abilities or a combination of them all the answer can be quite different.
     
  12. Hi-Tech

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    Right now Shakur. Teo's resume is still the best from the rest, but if Shakur gets another signature win then that makes him clearly ahead.
     
  13. eat more offal

    eat more offal Active Member banned Full Member

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    The least interesting bunch of boxers ever. Boring as ****!