How hard did Bob Satterfield hit in a P4P sense ?

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not that knowledgable on Satterfield but I know he was an inconsistent contender that could spring the odd upset and apparently he hit very hard.

    Where would you rate his power for his size ?
     
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  2. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    P4P power alongside Dempsey, Marciano, Schmeling and Louis. Hit very hard for his size.
     
  3. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In or near the same company as just about any puncher you could think of.
     
  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bob Satterfield was a good puncher.

    His reputation was he was a much lighter man fighting giants and giving up a lot of weight. However, he was only outweighed by 20 pounds or more SIX times, in his career. That isn't much, particularly these days, for fighters in many weight classes. (Hell, Jamie McDonnell entered the ring weighing 143 for his 118-pound title fight with Inoue.)

    Satterfield's weigh-ins were all the day of fights and his matches, for the most part, were fairly even when it came to weight.

    Compared to someone like Deontay Wilder, who gave up 20 pounds or A LOT more 24 times, and was outweighed by everyone he faced for the last 12 years of his career ... and still brutalized guys at a much higher clip, Satterfield's power isn't very comparable.

    I think a lot of guys have hit a lot harder than Bob Satterfield in any number of weight classes.

    Old timers like to praise Satterfield's power. But he didn't even stop half the guys he fought. He couldn't even stop middleweight champ Jake LaMotta. And LaMotta wasn't exactly a monster at 167.

    Satterfield was a good puncher. But he didn't hit as hard as the best punchers in a number of weight classes since then.

    Hell, Floyd Patterson was probably a better puncher than Satterfield.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. Sorry. That's hyperbole.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. No. No. And hell No.

    His "size" was pretty much the same weight as most of his opponents, give or take a couple pounds.

    Only a handful were even 20 pounds heavier.
     
  7. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    How come no one talks about Curtis "Hatchetman" Shepard? I believe Archie Moore himself said Hatchetman was the hardest hitter he ever faced, with truly numbing KO power.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lots of people name guys they beat as the hardest puncher they faced. Sheppard failed to stop the majority of the fighters he faced, no matter how bad many of them were. Didn't stop Moore, either, although others did.

    Just more "old timer" talk.
     
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  9. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I mean Archie had hundreds of fights and fought almost everyone of note over decades... Not the first boxer I'd jump to discredit. I bet it beats most of the fluff that's come out of Foreman about being afraid of whoever.
     
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  10. Dubblechin

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    Sheppard didn't knock out a lot of people, some of whom were pretty mediocre. He didn't stop Moore, either, while others did.

    Lots of fighters name someone they actually beat as the hardest puncher they ever fought, leaving out the guys who actually hurt them bad enough to KO them.

    Quick Tillis named Shavers the hardest puncher he faced. Yet, Tillis got dropped by Shavers, got up and won. But others put Tillis away clearly. Tillis got stopped nearly a dozen times. He was obviously hit much harder by other guys. Witherspoon demolished him in one round, for example. It was brutal. Far more brutal than anything Shavers did to Tillis.

    It's just what fighters do. Not sure why.
     
  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah I'm familiar with the trend but I'm not going to disqualify everything that comes out of a fighters mouth as inherent bull**** just because some fighters are like that... what else are you left with? The Best I've Faced series for example is a great resource for fans looking to see how fighters measure up against one another in different skills and traits.

    Hagler said Eugene Hart hit him the hardest and looking at the film of Hart you can see he possessed freakish raw power. Was he skilled at applying it? Ehh. Hardly what you would call a thinker in there most of the time. I doubt he ever landed a punch in his career as clean and perfect as the right hand that Hearn's KO'ed Duran with. Doesn't mean he didn't possess a lot of power.
     
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  12. Pedro_El_Chef

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    He knocked out the massive Williams in a few rounds.

    Basic error of conflating punching power with knockout percentage or KO wins over good opponents.
    A guy can be a numbing puncher but without an impressive list of knockout wins. It happens all the time.
     
  13. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    P4P he may be one of the hardest ever ... competitive w Langford ... Joe Louis said he thought Satterfield hit harder than Marciano ...he was a blown up light heavyweight that flattened heavyweights ...
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    When asked who hit harder between Firpo and Dempsey before their legendary fight Willard said Jack Johnson was the hardest hitter he ever fought .... and so it goes ...
     
  15. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    That’s pretty surprising, do you still have the source