2 judges scored round 9 for Davis, the round where he got knocked down

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Im just happy to help you mate
     
  2. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I don’t need help from you, you was confused. But thanks for the offer.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You don't any more because i explained it to you. I don't mean to be patronising, but you keep tripping yourself up.

    You've given yourself a false dichotomy in your think it should have been a kd, so Roach should have won, which means you have an anti tank agenda; or you think it wasn't a kd, and Wahid won, which means you deal with facts.

    The problem many posters have when trolling is they paint themselves into a lose lose situation as you've done here.

    You won't be the first, you won't be the last.

    Like I said, I'm just happy to help.

    We both agree it should have been a knockdown and Roach should have won. Thanks mate.
     
  4. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    No again, you are confused at basics and jumping ahead of yourself. I never needed anything but to try explain simple things to you.
    My stance has not changed one bit from my first posts on here. I’m fairly certain there is nothing you could teach me about boxing and definitely not a thing you can teach me about English comprehension skills.

    Talking of trolls you’ve gone on for pages about nothing except trying to trip me up, trying to be smart, but we are still at the same stage and same problem as you are not learning.

    The issue you are struggling with is you are equating a kd to a roach win. This is sending you in circles of confusion.
    However it’s not that simple and I am not doing that. Both fighters knew it wasn’t scored a kd and roach didn’t fully capitalise.
    If it was scored a kd, rd 10,11,12 also need re-evaluation.

    Don’t worry you are patronising nobody, you are struggling to understand basic level 1 things, so your not in a position to patronise anybody.
    It’s a common problem when people try to be smarter than they are.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Oh its not about being smarter than you, I'm just helping with this particular problem you have, that's all.

    But it's fine now, you see the light. You agree it should have been a kd, you agree that Roach would have won on your card.

    You have admitted you have an anti tank bias, but that's OK, because as it happens your view matches the bast majority.
     
  6. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    See, You’re trying to be smart again, but it’s you who has the comprehension problem.
    Like I said, no help is needed from somebody who has a lack of comprehension skills.

    The only problem is you think you’re smart but you’re just not. You keep putting words on me I’ve not said, taken my sentences out of context and completely misunderstood the whole take, so how can you provide anyone help? You have to play games to try look smart on a forum. It’s pathetic!

    You are still equating a roach kd to a roach win. Without accepting that had r9 been changed, so would r10,11 and 12, so you lose all credibility and show a very limited thought process.
    This is why, even if roach complained to the commission and won, all it would do is turn into a NC, roach would not get a win.

    It’s pretty basic but you still struggle and decided to troll me to cover it up when I asked you many times to drop it.
    Football may be more your thing as boxing clearly is a struggle for you.
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    So were you struggling when yourself said Roach would have won on your card had the correct call been made? Was that a struggle for you?

    I don't have to try to play any games with you, we're on a thread discussing the 10-8 call.

    But since this is becoming a struggle for you let's make it simpler.

    Do you think it should have been called a knockdown, yes or no.
     
  8. ruffryders

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    You’re adding bits to what I said to take things out of context. This is where you’re struggling.

    my initial statement was,

    “I had it 115-113 for tank.

    IF the ref called it a KD, I would have had it for Roach. But the FACT is, the ref didn’t!”

    The reason I say this is because it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand that if it was scored a kd, we can’t simply change the round and assume the rest of the fight stays the same.

    If you want to ask questions, answer these simple ones;
    1) did the fighters know it was not scored a kd?
    2) if it was scored a kd, does the remainder of the fight stay exactly the same?

    again though, this would be an assumption which is not a rule in boxing, so we have to accept that it is either a NC or a draw. Those are the only 2 possible results. Neither give roach a belt.
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    No you said "it should have been scored a knockdown"

    Do you still agree that is the case, yes or no?
     
  10. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I’ve said my take many times.

    You don’t want to answer questions as it shows a narrow mind. It also doesn’t fit your agenda
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    So i will take that as you do still agree it is the case.

    Thanks.

    Your questions are white noise but yes of course they knew because the referee didn't count and of course the fight would not be exactly the same.

    However i don't want to overwhelm you so I'm just happy to see you agree it should have been called a knockdown.
     
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  12. ruffryders

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    So you agree, changing one decision in a vacuum “of course” does not equate to a confirmed different result.

    hopefully you have finally understood, thank you for showing me how difficult something simple can be for you to understand
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    I didn't mind helping you, for what it's worth. I know every so often you got frustrated and it manifested itself in petty insults, but i knew with patience I'd get you to this point.

    It should have been ruled a knockdown. No tangential white noise required. The knockdown should have been given.
     
  14. ruffryders

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    Yes, thank you for showing me how you lack comprehension skills or anything more advanced than ABC. I assumed most on here understood that. So thank you for showing me there is a lower bar on here than I thought.

    calling me troll and hater etc and then condemning me for insulting seems a bit hypocritical…pot, kettle…you probably don’t understand though.

    Talking about frustrated, speak for yourself…im fine. I just find it pathetic, but that’s my personal opinion.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    So removing the white noise, you agree it should have been called a knockdown.