Dare I say it, the failure to have made that fight is beginning to affect his legacy... Just like the refusal to make the Usyk fight for a while was doing. Maybe those Wilder wins having aged poorly (rightly), being seen now more as decent wins rather than being able to claim he'd beaten someone special (as he did at the time, and many fans likewise) will help push him into returning and fighting Joshua and/or others to solidify his reputation for history... But I'm not holding my breath - as you say, he might well be afraid of how a loss might look, and not without good reason.
Wilder has been exposed He has wlad and 2 decent losses vs usyk and a few ok wins. Mike Tyson deservedly gets called out for blowing his prime, but in 3-4 years he accomplished WAY more than Fury in 15. Take away the wlad win and Mike's post prison career isn't even that far off Fury had talent, but he only has himself to blame by banking everything on an old wlad and Wilder. He has a decent career, but no chance is it a great career, with just one win against an ageing champ, who many other greats would have dismantled, especially the 40 year old version Such a thin resume and this coming from a fan. But I call a spade a spade
@BubblesUK As much as I hate fights made too late, I think his only road for redemption is beating anthony Joshua Yes there are other fighters better than Joshua now (Fury also), but if he fights anyone again not named Joshua, then it's clearly a duck 1. His biggest rival 2. Fellow countryman 3. Highest anticipated fight, more than usyk 4. Highest financial reward 5. Bragging rights
I can see them making a card with Fury and AJ both on it in tune ups to set up a fight between them both. If they are both coming off a win it will be more interesting.
And also... 6. They might both be aging and declined, but that means there's less excuses for whoever loses - it's still meaningful even if they ARE past it. 7. No real risk of it aging badly - where beating say a Kabayel (or, at least until recently, Bakole) could age really well or really badly, AJ's resume is too deep to do anything other than go down as one of the best of the era (regardless of how you rate the era itself).
Though past their best, AJ vs Fury will always carry the compelling animosity between the two men and hoped for fight drama, even if the objective technical quality is lacking. If AJ wins, no doubt the saver will be that Fury would’ve kicked his ass prime vs prime…but then Tyson’s career is somewhat built on woulda, shoulda, couldas, similar to his name sake Iron Mike. Tyson has always talked a far bigger game than he ultimately executes, if he even takes it on as promised. Agit is very sturdy and workman like so I can’t see Tyson deterring him - as such, I imagine Agit would methodically kill the belly to bring on the death of the head. Agit appears very strong also, so any attempts to clinch by Tyson may be well negated yet again - as was the case vs Ngannou (via sheer strength) and vs Usyk (via style/strength) X 2. Does Fury even know what weight is right for him these days and will the cushy beard make its own comeback also?
I can see that too, but remember what happened Wilder vs parker Both winning the fight makes it more appealing for sure, but a great risk. I'm just frustrated as I believe Fury at his best beats everyone not named usyk. Oh well
Yes, get them winning and set up a huge fight. Just reeks a little of mayweather vs pac, but better late than never
I don't believe this fight is happening If he does he's going to be KOd, Kabayel is a body shot machine and Fury has a big body on him.
Don’t you think the real issue with trying to clinch Ngannou was trying to clinch a champion UFC fighter? Ngannou probably has a greater intuitive knowledge of leverage, stance, and technique for that sort of thing than any boxer. And he’s huge and strong. So all around, yeah, try to grab him, good move bro. I’d put money on Fury having substantially greater functional strength than Usyk, but damn does Usyk seem slippery up close when someone tries to grab him. Somehow they just can’t. anyway, as to Fury vs AJ? Fury looked great in his last two outings. He lost but that’s because Usyk looked ****ing great. AJ looked terrible against Dubois. My money is heavily on Fury. He probably does get knocked down at some point, but whatever, he always gets right up.
No risk, but it'd be seen as a pointless warmup too. Overhyped prospects would generate a lot more hype for not a lot more risk (and possibly less) - but is anyone going to feed their hyped prospects to these guys unless they think they can win? Catch-22.. I'm with @AdamT - just go straight in, let the excuses roll if necessary but it'd at least be fun to see (even though it won't happen).
Plus Joshua bringing serious power to the table is an instant appetizer. Fury had never been stopped officially.
I’d probably give Fury the nod in sheer strength over Usyk but with the gap lessened in terms of functional strength. Usyk is slippery but he also knows how to use the muscle he does have. There was a very notable moment during the rematch when Usyk, using sheer strength, shoved Fury off him sending Tyson back into a corner. Sure, Ngannou’s training in UFC/grappling would’ve given him some advantage though he could only apply same to a certain degree within the rules of boxing and wearing gloves. I’d have to watch it again to see how much technique Ngannou applied vs just using his sheer strength. Just Ngannou’s sheer size alone would’ve made it that much more difficult for Fury to get his arms around him in an attempt to manhandle, lean, etc. As to Fury’s current viability, he’s only measured against Usyk only in his last two fights (prior to that, almost defeated by Ngannou). Usyk himself appears to have lost a step or two, so there maybe tougher demands waiting for him also against other contenders. AJ did look terrible but he did come apart under power that Fury doesn’t possess. So who knows? - maybe AJ can hold up to land his own power shots and bring Fury undone. At this point in time, if Fury believes he could take AJ, why not go for it and earn huge $$$? I could be wrong but it seems AJ is willing but Fury isn’t.
You guys know he just announced he will be a co-manager of some shitty charity football team? He's not fighting again, at least not til June.